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hey this is another episode of ufo

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garage i'm ben

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and i'm joe and this is where we talk

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about ufos

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aliens and all things weird of course

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what's up man how are you doing today

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i'm doing swell i'm doing well and swell

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well and swell at the same time dude i

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mean that's a that's a that's a pretty

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good way to feel

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well and swell i like it man get my tank

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top on dude

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that is a pretty breezy looking tank top

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what is that mitch's

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mitch's surf shop from lahala la jolla

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la jolla beach in san

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santiago saint diago yeah

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that's awesome yeah what does it mean

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what la

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la jolla no santiago santiago it's

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either a whale's vagina or

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a wooden ship that uh scholars lost the

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translation years

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oh man that's great that's great well

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dude uh so it's gonna be pretty awesome

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today we've got a pretty

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uh cool guest with us uh she sent us our

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book

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um erin montgomery she is the uh writer

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of dirty little secrets this is her book

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uh man i uh i read this and all i can

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really say is

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is wow i thought it was absolutely

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fascinating yeah it was really good so

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she's on the show with us today

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and i'm super excited to have her with

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us erin how are you doing today

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i am doing all right i am doing all

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right end of the day

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oh yeah nothing better than the end of

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the day

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yeah i like that well aaron i gotta say

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i'm a i'm a huge fan of your book

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i loved it i absolutely loved it um i

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mean

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usually when you hear about you know

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experiences and people's stories

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you know there's it's it's it's it seems

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to have like a focal point and

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and while your book did obviously have a

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focal point

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there's just so much to it i mean we're

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talking you know

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the abduction the just the simple

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encounters

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to you know uh missing time uh

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you know talking about dimensions

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shifting

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and i mean it's got everything it's it's

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it was just absolutely fascinating

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i couldn't put it down so thank you so

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much for sending that to us

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well i'm glad you enjoyed it yeah i

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guess with that book the focal point

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really is my mental process and coming

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right with with what uh i experienced on

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a daily basis

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yeah yeah it definitely was uh and

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while i was reading it like it almost uh

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i wouldn't say it gave me anxiety but it

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really like kind of put me in

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your shoes uh while i was reading it

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i mean there's just stories in there

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that i i couldn't even i couldn't even

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i um yeah there's some you know

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especially at the beginning of the book

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more with the traumatic experiences and

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through those things on paper even

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i had to stop like okay i'm gonna write

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about something else for a little bit

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and then i'm gonna come back to the

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story and i figured that

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writing this stuff out

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yeah absolutely uh and i i

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i love that i love that you put that in

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the book because as you're reading along

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you know it's it's like i'm having

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anxiety just trying to

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continue on to the next page you know

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it's like it's it's very like

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it's almost like she's talking to you

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directly it's so good

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so i mean aaron without i mean you know

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we don't want to give away the book or

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anything but

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i i mean i would love to just get into

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uh your story

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and let the people know uh a little bit

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about you

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uh and uh give them give them some some

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some background and then

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and then after that then you know i

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why this started taking place is a

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generations i can't say

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when that necessarily it started but i

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know that my grandfather had experiences

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my father and my aunt have both had

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my father talks less about it and only

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but my aunt would talk

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about a a particular ufo that she would

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um where we were living because i was

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and uh where she was working

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and this ship that was parked there for

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a long time and she would see the beings

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moving around and it was just crazy talk

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to me at the time because i didn't have

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any memories i was

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20 when that was happening um

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but um then me my brother

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my cousins her children have had

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and abilities you know psychic type

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abilities and um

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and now our children have those

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encounters and abilities as well so this

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you know it's not as simple where does

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it start it did i don't know

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when it wasn't there you know those back

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contact is about four years old and that

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had this and it's just a little flash

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i was sitting on the floor with other

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children in the ship the room was very

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white and sterile and we were playing

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it was almost like catch but it was in

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slow motion so we were

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and i turned towards the doorway and a

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so and that was it and and

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boop all that was all the memory i had i

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any beings but i know i was on a ship um

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just in just in that little bit i mean

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already and that's that's what i loved

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about this book was like

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every sentence it was like you're just

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of like information or like you know

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just another part of the story it never

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like it never had a dull moment because

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crazy in like a negative term it was

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in my mind i was like wow this is just

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family lineage i mean your family has

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reports of this happening to them do you

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far back in in your family this goes is

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it just your like grandfather

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and grandmother that is as far as i can

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go because that is all the stories that

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more but there there isn't anything else

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the theories is that you know this is uh

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follows uh yeah family bloodline um

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something like that that

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do you have any idea well i have some

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speculations

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right for sure i mean i my blood type is

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positive i need to get that figured out

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an important thing to do

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combination of irish and native american

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i don't know if that has anything to do

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with that i don't know

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manipulate it and i know that they

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you know then you get to the the point

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you're in a ship and you're in a room

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um and it kind of it kind of makes me

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think of you know like uh

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you know like in stranger things how

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they just have like a room of kids

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yeah you know right and it's almost like

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you know

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they're not doing anything to them at

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that point it's just kind of a room of

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kids playing with toys and that's

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that's kind of what popped up in my head

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maybe it's a

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neo walks in and there's all these

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gifted children that are kind of right

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manipulating

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like a spoon or or things like that uh

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do you think like maybe there's even the

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blocks in that in that scene there's a

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kid's playing with blocks that is like

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exactly like

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what i remember that's right yes yeah

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yes

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did you maybe have you know i guess we

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could speculate all day but do you

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have an inkling on maybe like why all

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these kids were there like does it kind

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of it kind of almost reminds me too of

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the part in star wars where all the

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little kids are training

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you know the younglings yeah where all

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the jedi are training and it's like

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the children you know and it's it's

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like i don't i don't know it's it's a

286
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there's a lot to this but i was just

287
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curious about your idea on like maybe

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you know why you were there i think that

289
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there are like groups of kids that are

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all taken together

291
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and i have contact with some of them

292
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wow you know and i and i know like that

293
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little boy that i saw that walked by i

294
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know him

295
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wow what and i know several other people

296
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that he knew

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on ship i know that now too and so that

298
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tells me that i knew them then as well

299
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so yes and then i think that we're just

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taking in bunches

301
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like that and and kept kind of in a

302
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almost a classroom

303
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so as we you know grade levels or

304
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whatever as we go through the stages

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of contact and and whatever it is

306
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program that we've been subscribed to

307
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right

308
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so um do you did you later in life

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uh uh meet these people or how

310
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how did you come to know the these these

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children that you

312
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saw when you were a kid and and know

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them as an adult was it like in the same

314
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geographic

315
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no it's all been through like or support

316
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groups

317
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that's how i meet these people um the

318
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the first one that i met that i knew i

319
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had seen on ship and that was as an

320
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adult was uh through the cero

321
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that uh what is um i don't even remember

322
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what it's

323
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the what the letters stand for but it's

324
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um uh yvonne smith

325
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group that she hosts in california i'm

326
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not in california but i work with her

327
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so therefore i kind of got adopted into

328
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the group

329
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um and through that i met a man and

330
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um i saw him on ship one night and and i

331
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only knew him from his facebook picture

332
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like hey

333
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i saw you on ship and i sent him a

334
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message and we talked about it and

335
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and he said okay that's interesting my

336
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feet are dirty and that is always an

337
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indication that i've been taken

338
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so you know out walking wow without your

339
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shoes on so

340
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so it was corroborated i really did see

341
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him on ship

342
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that night and um and

343
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years later he decided he wanted to

344
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start his own support group and

345
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brought me in immediately and through

346
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that group i have met several other

347
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people that i know that i have been on

348
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ship with

349
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so and and they know he was you know it

350
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it's almost like this guy has gathered

351
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up that class you know what i mean

352
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yeah it's almost like like a high school

353
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reunion

354
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so wow what i mean what an awesome thing

355
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to have i would guess i mean i

356
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i don't know from experience um no pun

357
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intended but like

358
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uh you know to have other people

359
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corroborate your

360
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your story and be able to talk to them

361
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about hey yeah i saw you literally last

362
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night

363
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has it been kind of i i'd imagine it'd

364
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be pretty healing for all of you

365
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um absolutely yeah yeah so i mean

366
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i know that there's probably plenty of

367
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listeners that are

368
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um you know interested and have have

369
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been through this type of stuff just

370
00:13:03,910 --> 00:13:00,079
really quick while we're on the topic

371
00:13:06,710 --> 00:13:03,920
uh it you you mentioned a uh um

372
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a a group is there is there all kinds of

373
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groups and different

374
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is there like one main thing somebody

375
00:13:14,949 --> 00:13:11,519
could could google and try to find

376
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something in their area um absolutely

377
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they can try i

378
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i find a lot of the groups on facebook

379
00:13:23,190 --> 00:13:20,079
there's there's several of them that i

380
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participate in uh chosen um

381
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et contact i can't even remember the

382
00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:27,040
full name but that is the group that i

383
00:13:29,829 --> 00:13:27,440
just

384
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mentioned um and then there's

385
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experiencers meet

386
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which is another one so if you're going

387
00:13:36,629 --> 00:13:34,399
to be doing a search

388
00:13:38,550 --> 00:13:36,639
look up the words experiencer look up

389
00:13:41,590 --> 00:13:38,560
the words contact d

390
00:13:43,189 --> 00:13:41,600
abductee and support group and i am sure

391
00:13:45,430 --> 00:13:43,199
that a whole bunch of stuff is going to

392
00:13:46,629 --> 00:13:45,440
come out wow you're going to find

393
00:13:49,509 --> 00:13:46,639
you're going to find the support that

394
00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:49,519
you and that's absolutely key

395
00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:50,880
for people that are going through these

396
00:13:56,710 --> 00:13:52,880
things absolutely

397
00:13:58,389 --> 00:13:56,720
so i want to know you know to unpack a

398
00:14:00,230 --> 00:13:58,399
lot of this stuff i think this is kind

399
00:14:05,110 --> 00:14:00,240
of like the core of it right here is

400
00:14:07,189 --> 00:14:05,120
is when for you was it

401
00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:07,199
obvious that something was going on

402
00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:09,040
because a lot of times we hear stories

403
00:14:11,110 --> 00:14:09,920
about like yeah

404
00:14:13,350 --> 00:14:11,120
this stuff has happened to me while i

405
00:14:16,069 --> 00:14:13,360
was a child i didn't even realize it

406
00:14:18,550 --> 00:14:16,079
until i was 33 years old or something

407
00:14:19,110 --> 00:14:18,560
like that you know was there a moment

408
00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:19,120
for you

409
00:14:22,310 --> 00:14:21,760
like an aha moment like oh my goodness

410
00:14:26,310 --> 00:14:22,320
this is

411
00:14:29,990 --> 00:14:26,320
actually happening to me now

412
00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:30,000
yes i was 19 and so that's a little

413
00:14:33,269 --> 00:14:32,160
earlier than a lot of experiences it is

414
00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:33,279
around 30s

415
00:14:36,470 --> 00:14:34,720
that it starts coming out so i was

416
00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:36,480
around 19 years old

417
00:14:40,710 --> 00:14:39,680
i was in college i happened to see that

418
00:14:43,509 --> 00:14:40,720
there was going to be an

419
00:14:44,470 --> 00:14:43,519
interview or not an interview but a a

420
00:14:46,150 --> 00:14:44,480
lecture

421
00:14:47,750 --> 00:14:46,160
by a guy talking about ufos and i

422
00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:47,760
thought that'd be kind of cool to go

423
00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:49,120
watch so i did

424
00:14:53,430 --> 00:14:51,600
it was stanton freeman i had no idea at

425
00:14:56,550 --> 00:14:53,440
the time who he was

426
00:14:58,550 --> 00:14:56,560
um and and i left

427
00:15:00,310 --> 00:14:58,560
that lecture that night absolutely

428
00:15:01,269 --> 00:15:00,320
terrified and i had no reason to be

429
00:15:04,629 --> 00:15:01,279
terrified

430
00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:04,639
and uh my boyfriend and i at the time

431
00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:06,959
had walked from our apartment to this

432
00:15:09,990 --> 00:15:08,560
thing and we get out and it's dark and

433
00:15:13,910 --> 00:15:10,000
now i'm walking home

434
00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:13,920
in the dark and completely afraid to

435
00:15:17,189 --> 00:15:15,040
look at the sky

436
00:15:18,069 --> 00:15:17,199
oh wow i could not i could not look at

437
00:15:20,389 --> 00:15:18,079
the sky i was

438
00:15:22,069 --> 00:15:20,399
i didn't know just kept my eyes focused

439
00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:22,079
on the ground i couldn't do it

440
00:15:26,710 --> 00:15:25,120
um that night there was a bright light

441
00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:26,720
through the window and a big like i

442
00:15:30,389 --> 00:15:28,320
don't know if it blew up a

443
00:15:31,749 --> 00:15:30,399
thing on the electrical lines or

444
00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:31,759
whatever one of those things the

445
00:15:34,710 --> 00:15:32,959
transformer

446
00:15:36,790 --> 00:15:34,720
blew up as well but the light was

447
00:15:38,310 --> 00:15:36,800
shining in the room first so i knew that

448
00:15:41,350 --> 00:15:38,320
something was going on and it was at

449
00:15:44,629 --> 00:15:41,360
that point that it just it kind of all

450
00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:44,639
came together like i really think that i

451
00:15:46,949 --> 00:15:45,120
have

452
00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:46,959
been suffering from this and i didn't

453
00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:48,320
really have

454
00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:50,240
too many indications before that except

455
00:15:53,030 --> 00:15:51,839
for some very strange things that

456
00:15:55,509 --> 00:15:53,040
happened to me

457
00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:55,519
from childhood up through my teenage

458
00:15:58,230 --> 00:15:56,320
years

459
00:15:59,590 --> 00:15:58,240
you know culminating in that hey pay

460
00:16:03,030 --> 00:15:59,600
attention we're trying to get

461
00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:03,040
you wake up you know and it was at that

462
00:16:06,710 --> 00:16:04,800
time that

463
00:16:08,310 --> 00:16:06,720
memories started coming back and i would

464
00:16:11,509 --> 00:16:08,320
i would have experiences

465
00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:11,519
and as the years went on more and more

466
00:16:16,870 --> 00:16:13,600
contact that i was aware of

467
00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:16,880
uh sometimes while awake uh and

468
00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:18,880
and yeah it kind of blossomed from there

469
00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:20,399
but it really was early

470
00:16:24,230 --> 00:16:22,959
in comparison to other experiences yeah

471
00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:24,240
it definitely seems like it

472
00:16:27,749 --> 00:16:26,560
did you know about like your your

473
00:16:30,550 --> 00:16:27,759
family's uh

474
00:16:31,910 --> 00:16:30,560
experience before or after you had this

475
00:16:33,749 --> 00:16:31,920
kind of aha moment

476
00:16:35,670 --> 00:16:33,759
was it after you started digging and

477
00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:35,680
then found out about it

478
00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:39,920
it was after it was after i actually

479
00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:42,160
it was i was pregnant with my first

480
00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:44,720
child so i was 20

481
00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:48,240
years old so this was right after um

482
00:16:52,389 --> 00:16:50,720
that lecture i'm living with my

483
00:16:53,749 --> 00:16:52,399
grandmother and my aunt because i didn't

484
00:16:56,790 --> 00:16:53,759
know what else to do and

485
00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:56,800
uh we my grandmother and i would watch

486
00:17:00,150 --> 00:16:58,240
what is it ufo files

487
00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:00,160
what that show that was on all the time

488
00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:02,320
in the in the mid 90s and

489
00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:04,799
um and we loved it and then she would

490
00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:05,919
tell me stories

491
00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:08,959
about my grandfather one main one and

492
00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:09,520
that was

493
00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:12,079
you know he was courting her they were

494
00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:13,439
in their teens

495
00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:16,240
and it would have been 1930s something

496
00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:18,480
like that in a very small town in texas

497
00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:20,240
where there's no street lights

498
00:17:24,309 --> 00:17:23,280
and he was walking home in the dark uh

499
00:17:26,390 --> 00:17:24,319
very sick

500
00:17:27,429 --> 00:17:26,400
by the way he had tonsillitis bronchitis

501
00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:27,439
something like that just

502
00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:29,840
you know nasty respiratory infection

503
00:17:32,870 --> 00:17:30,799
going on

504
00:17:34,390 --> 00:17:32,880
and a light came down from the sky

505
00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:34,400
shined upon him

506
00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:38,160
and he ran because what is that

507
00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:40,559
yeah and he runs all the way home runs

508
00:17:43,029 --> 00:17:41,440
in the bedroom

509
00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:43,039
dives under the covers but the light is

510
00:17:45,110 --> 00:17:44,400
still coming through the windows he

511
00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:45,120
falls asleep

512
00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:46,320
wakes up in the morning and he's

513
00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:49,360
completely cured oh wow

514
00:17:55,350 --> 00:17:52,799
yeah and so i knew that story at 20.

515
00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:55,360
wow that's great that's great so i mean

516
00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:56,000
this

517
00:18:00,390 --> 00:17:59,039
i guess that still happened when you

518
00:18:02,390 --> 00:18:00,400
were young uh

519
00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:02,400
you had talked about we always hear

520
00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:03,840
about missing time

521
00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:06,240
right but you have an interesting story

522
00:18:11,350 --> 00:18:07,360
about

523
00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:11,360
additional time oh yes that was

524
00:18:16,710 --> 00:18:14,400
that was in the middle of what what is

525
00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:16,720
known as high strangeness so many things

526
00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:18,320
were happening to me at this time i

527
00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:20,080
think i was 16

528
00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:23,360
and i was dating a guy who was

529
00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:25,039
kind of far out of town i was at his

530
00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:26,960
house my father said be home at this

531
00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:28,799
particular time

532
00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:31,360
time got away from me like oh crap i'm

533
00:18:34,789 --> 00:18:33,120
late so i get in the car and i drive

534
00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:34,799
home

535
00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:39,280
earlier

536
00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:42,799
than when i left what my boyfriend's

537
00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:43,360
house

538
00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:46,400
so i don't have any memories

539
00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:48,400
wow of the drive i just know that i got

540
00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:50,080
home and i got home early and i was like

541
00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:51,360
that's crazy but

542
00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:54,799
yes i'm not in trouble i was so excited

543
00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:57,120
somebody was looking out for you yeah

544
00:19:00,630 --> 00:18:58,080
absolutely

545
00:19:01,510 --> 00:19:00,640
i do have very strange dreams about the

546
00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:01,520
car

547
00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:05,200
sky and so i suspect

548
00:19:09,029 --> 00:19:08,000
that i just wonder what happened and i

549
00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:09,039
haven't

550
00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:12,559
regressions i don't remember

551
00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:15,440
anything from that time but um i really

552
00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:17,200
suspect something happened

553
00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:20,400
wow something had to happen yeah

554
00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:22,240
yeah definitely definitely because i

555
00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:24,080
mean you always hear stories about

556
00:19:27,430 --> 00:19:26,320
you know the missing time or or you know

557
00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:27,440
people being taken

558
00:19:32,230 --> 00:19:29,600
and then put them put back but they're

559
00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:32,240
not like put back in the same spot

560
00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:34,480
that's really interesting for like you

561
00:19:37,830 --> 00:19:36,160
know it's like oh yeah you

562
00:19:39,990 --> 00:19:37,840
we can not only put you back in the

563
00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:40,000
wrong spot but we can also put you back

564
00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:40,880
at the wrong time

565
00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:43,919
time you know right exactly

566
00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:46,720
exactly they they're not as precise as

567
00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:49,280
as they would like to be i don't think

568
00:19:52,870 --> 00:19:51,440
it's kind of like it's some i mean for a

569
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:52,880
lack of a better word a little

570
00:19:58,070 --> 00:19:54,960
humanizing to know that

571
00:20:02,149 --> 00:19:58,080
that these entities are capable of

572
00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:02,159
of mistakes yeah absolutely absolutely

573
00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:02,559
they

574
00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:06,480
uh

575
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:09,120
it just it really does bring that

576
00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:11,520
characteristic of their not robots these

577
00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:13,919
these are creatures with flaws and

578
00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:15,360
they're just trying to get along just

579
00:20:18,149 --> 00:20:16,720
like we are

580
00:20:20,149 --> 00:20:18,159
interested however their agendas are

581
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:20,159
different than ours

582
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:22,480
yeah that's a really cool thought um i

583
00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:24,400
mean i love that idea that that

584
00:20:27,669 --> 00:20:27,039
some of these creatures or entities are

585
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:27,679
are

586
00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:30,720
bio electric kind of robot

587
00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:34,320
half a hybrid alive and

588
00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:37,360
robotic but yeah it kind of just opens

589
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:37,760
your

590
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:41,600
how many different

591
00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:44,720
types or species or or different types

592
00:20:47,669 --> 00:20:46,080
of things that are out there and like

593
00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:47,679
yeah maybe there have been

594
00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:50,880
robotic type biological beings

595
00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:54,159
but uh yeah this is definitely

596
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:56,320
some some witness proof and testimony i

597
00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:57,679
mean you're not the only one that's kind

598
00:21:00,789 --> 00:20:58,720
of

599
00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:00,799
that has has witnessed little mistakes

600
00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:02,720
and stuff like this

601
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:05,600
right yeah so that's super interesting

602
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:06,240
um

603
00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:08,320
yeah so speaking of of species i know i

604
00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:09,600
i brought it up but

605
00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:12,480
uh on your cover uh it it uh if we could

606
00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:14,159
talk about your cover really quick

607
00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:17,679
um it uh uh what i'm seeing is a ship in

608
00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:19,039
the sky and then

609
00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:22,000
um a beam of light coming down to a gray

610
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:22,960
type alien

611
00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:24,720
um is that is that something that's

612
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:26,080
special to you is that a specif

613
00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:28,640
specific entity that you've met or can

614
00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:30,880
you maybe talk about that a little bit

615
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:33,360
that i did that painting back in i think

616
00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:34,960
it was around 2002

617
00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:38,240
and i was really starting to

618
00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:40,960
uncover things and have memories you

619
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:42,799
know upon waking

620
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:45,440
you know not losing contact if that

621
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:47,200
makes any sense it wasn't being

622
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:49,840
completely drowned out in my memories i

623
00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:50,480
i had

624
00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:53,120
conscious content i guess you could say

625
00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:54,880
anyways the the painting there

626
00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:57,840
is a representation of my understanding

627
00:22:02,149 --> 00:21:58,960
and saying okay yes this

628
00:22:05,830 --> 00:22:02,159
is happening okay uh the being itself

629
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:05,840
uh was the i mean it looks like she's

630
00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:07,280
wearing a dress and i know that i've

631
00:22:11,909 --> 00:22:09,520
never seen a being like that

632
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:11,919
but i think um you know thinking back on

633
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:13,679
it the the

634
00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:16,960
entity that comes to me most often is

635
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:19,679
of feels like a female she has been very

636
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:20,559
comforting

637
00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:22,000
and i think that was my way of

638
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:23,760
expressing it at the time

639
00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:26,159
and i may not have understood that while

640
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,360
i was doing it but

641
00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:30,000
awesome yeah one thing one thing that

642
00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:31,039
you had said that was

643
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:34,000
super interesting was you know talking

644
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:35,520
about the experience

645
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:37,760
and you were trying to wrap your own

646
00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:38,960
head around the thought

647
00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:40,640
but you know you had you had made the

648
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:42,240
connection between like

649
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:45,200
you know a small child and a dog if it

650
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:47,039
pulls the dog's tail

651
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:48,799
you know this dog might react in a way

652
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:50,240
you don't want it to

653
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:53,520
and you you know you related it to us

654
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:55,600
and how maybe we just don't understand

655
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:58,000
how to interact with these things and it

656
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:59,039
leads to

657
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:01,200
you know maybe a not so positive

658
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:04,080
experience all the time

659
00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:07,440
you know yeah um lately i've

660
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:10,240
as i've been trying to one of the

661
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:11,520
difficult things about this is not

662
00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:13,520
having a language in which we can

663
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:15,520
really express what what we're going

664
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:16,559
through but

665
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:19,840
as um time goes by and i'm doing more

666
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:21,039
shows and talking

667
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:23,120
out loud about these things more and

668
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:24,480
more i've got

669
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:26,320
really negative scary experiences that

670
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:28,880
i've had they're horrible

671
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:31,520
horrible awful things that have happened

672
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:32,480
and then i've had

673
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:37,760
amazing loving just life fulfilling

674
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,360
just i don't know i can't even describe

675
00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:41,520
it experiences

676
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,840
and then i've had the ones that were i

677
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:45,440
was afraid

678
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:49,279
necessarily mean they were awful and bad

679
00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:50,559
and evil

680
00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:52,480
so to speak right they could have been

681
00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:54,080
very loving i was just

682
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:57,440
afraid and and and those are the times

683
00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:58,960
that it can be

684
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:00,960
you know take a second calm yourself

685
00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:02,080
down

686
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:03,760
you really need to be afraid right now

687
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:05,520
and um

688
00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:07,120
through the processing of the traumas

689
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:08,960
and the fears and everything i think

690
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:09,679
that

691
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:12,159
because i have done those things i'm

692
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:14,080
just able to remember more

693
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:16,880
comprehend more and communicate more

694
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,640
than i could when i was little

695
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:20,400
right definitely do you think that these

696
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:21,679
experiences

697
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:25,760
uh are by all the same type of

698
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:27,679
entity or being or do you think that

699
00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:29,200
they're completely different and that's

700
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:31,360
why the experiences themselves are maybe

701
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:33,200
different

702
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:36,240
uh yes actually i think that is very

703
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:37,840
much the case and there are some

704
00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:39,120
experiences i have where there's

705
00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:41,120
multiple types of beings

706
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:45,039
um yeah the the most

707
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:48,720
amazing feeling experience i had i was

708
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:50,960
oh i had been about 27 because my

709
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,400
youngest was two

710
00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:54,640
i was visiting my mother in colorado we

711
00:25:00,310 --> 00:24:55,679
were outside

712
00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:00,320
watching i think it was the landed um

713
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:02,799
meteor shower and i got that feeling

714
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,440
like oh

715
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:05,520
they're coming it's kind of like a

716
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:07,039
sinking uncomfortable

717
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:09,760
feeling in the body which feels very

718
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:12,400
much like anxiety and it's like oh crap

719
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:13,360
now i've got to go

720
00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:16,080
and protect myself but that day i was

721
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:17,919
determined to stay awake like no

722
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:19,840
all right i know you're coming i know

723
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:21,200
you're going to come for me and i am

724
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:22,720
going to stay up and i'm going to see

725
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:24,159
you come through that door

726
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:27,679
wow and i did and i stayed awake

727
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,720
and um it was funny my brother's cat was

728
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:32,320
pacing back and forth in front of the

729
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:33,600
doorway

730
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:35,039
like he was like protecting me or

731
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:36,400
something he just paced back forth back

732
00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:36,960
and forth

733
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:40,559
oh my gosh yeah it was like 3 30 or

734
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:41,440
something

735
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:43,520
around then when these creatures came in

736
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:46,000
and they were a gray type

737
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:49,520
you know the very thin body and arms and

738
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:50,320
legs and the

739
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:52,320
large head and the large eyes but they

740
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:53,360
were

741
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:56,240
really small maybe three feet wow well

742
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:58,000
they were very small and they moved in a

743
00:26:02,630 --> 00:25:59,840
very childlike fashion

744
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:02,640
and as soon as they entered the room i

745
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:03,039
was

746
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:06,000
filled with this amazing feeling of

747
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:08,240
unconditional love

748
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:10,080
like i don't know if i've ever been able

749
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:11,600
to feel that again

750
00:26:17,669 --> 00:26:15,039
and and they just came in and i was

751
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,679
just overjoyed and uh one of those

752
00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:19,200
beings actually crawled up on the bed

753
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:21,039
with me put his hand

754
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:23,360
up on my chest and told me that i would

755
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:24,240
have a

756
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:27,840
lump at in 37 and i can never

757
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:31,039
figure out what is 37 37 years 37 days

758
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:35,039
37 moons what is he talking about

759
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:37,360
however at the age of 37 i did have a

760
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:38,320
lump that

761
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:40,320
uh in my breast that needed to be looked

762
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:42,240
at that ended up being benign and not a

763
00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:44,080
big deal but

764
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:45,840
it's almost like he gave me proof like

765
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:47,360
no we're serious and we're real and this

766
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:48,559
is gonna happen

767
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:52,480
wow so man i kind of want to unpack

768
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,200
unpack that

769
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:56,320
for a second so you're you're 20

770
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:00,240
and you're 27 27 years old and

771
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,880
you decide oh i'm gonna stay awake uh

772
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:04,559
even though you felt this

773
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:07,200
moment of dread or that sinking feeling

774
00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:08,720
you're talking about

775
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,760
um and and so are you the only one in

776
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:13,760
the in in the bedroom at this moment or

777
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:16,320
are you with another person that could

778
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:17,600
could have possibly

779
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:20,640
uh witnessed this as well like what was

780
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:20,880
the

781
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:30,720
all by myself

782
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:33,120
yeah right so that that it's almost like

783
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:34,399
uh they

784
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:36,640
knew you were going to be alone and they

785
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:38,399
were kind of giving you a heads up like

786
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:40,480
hey we're coming to visit tonight

787
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:42,399
that's what it kind of sounds like to me

788
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:43,679
like maybe

789
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:46,960
yes i mean they didn't have to signal me

790
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:48,320
right and make me feel like they were

791
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:50,080
coming yeah

792
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:53,520
yeah so um have you

793
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:56,720
experienced like a a a side effect of

794
00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:59,200
almost clairvoyance uh since this

795
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:00,159
started happening

796
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,240
it's literally them sending you

797
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:06,159
messages or have you experienced

798
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:07,600
anything like that being able to tell

799
00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:08,880
like hey something bad's

800
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:12,320
gonna happen or or is it always just uh

801
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:16,159
you know when you are visited

802
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:19,919
i tend to have access to that kind of

803
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:22,480
information at all times

804
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,640
not saying that i'm constantly living in

805
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:26,399
visions or anything but if i

806
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:28,640
want some information and i want to

807
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,320
reach out and

808
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:32,480
feel something knows something i can do

809
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:33,600
that

810
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:36,399
i do a lot of tarot readings i've done

811
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,880
you know

812
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:38,640
a lot of shamanic work with energy

813
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,640
manipulation and a lot of that has to do

814
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:42,320
with

815
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:45,360
visions and seeing things uh

816
00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:48,559
and i think that i don't know if it has

817
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:49,919
to do with the genetic

818
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:51,600
manipulation i don't know if it has to

819
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:54,000
do with the actual physical act of

820
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:54,880
contact and

821
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:58,080
and communication with an uh alien

822
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:01,440
race i don't know what turns it on

823
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:04,720
but i think that most experiencers

824
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:06,480
are going to be in the very least

825
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:08,320
empathic unless they're going to be

826
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:09,520
telepathic

827
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:11,200
many are going to have the visions and

828
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:13,279
like clear audience

829
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:15,760
and um you know all of those things and

830
00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:16,399
um

831
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:18,720
yeah yeah and it's so strange too

832
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:19,520
because it's like

833
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:22,480
most of the people you know they're just

834
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:22,880
so

835
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:26,480
like it's just very unexpected

836
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:28,399
like it's such an unexpected thing to

837
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:29,520
happen and

838
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:31,360
and even though like it may have been

839
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:33,279
happening for a very long time

840
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:35,279
i mean you look at you know uh eric

841
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:37,200
mitchell or terry lovelace you know

842
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:38,320
who's uh you know

843
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:40,799
as i understand was a a a part in this

844
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:41,440
book

845
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:44,240
as well uh i mean you know it's just one

846
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:45,679
of those things where you know this

847
00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:47,120
this stuff seems to be happening to

848
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:49,200
people and and and

849
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:51,440
it kind of fascinates me that it's like

850
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,240
i didn't know

851
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:54,480
anything about this i didn't ask for it

852
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:56,640
i didn't want it

853
00:30:01,990 --> 00:29:58,240
and then come to find out this has been

854
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:02,000
happening to me for a very long time

855
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,360
right yes it can be very shocking when

856
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:07,440
you only have one instance in your mind

857
00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:09,760
okay this happened this once

858
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:12,399
and you know me being myself if you were

859
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:13,919
to tell me man i was abducted this one

860
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:15,360
time i'm like uh-huh

861
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,720
right yeah just that one yeah

862
00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:20,559
do you i've actually gotten to the point

863
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:22,159
where if if somebody

864
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,919
sees a ship and tells me about it i'm

865
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:25,440
like um uh-huh

866
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:28,559
oh can you can you elaborate on that

867
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:28,960
because

868
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:31,520
me and joe have both seen some pretty

869
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:32,320
weird stuff

870
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:35,039
uh not only like by ourselves before we

871
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:36,000
started this podcast

872
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:38,480
but we actually think we saw some

873
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:39,200
something on

874
00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:41,520
very unusual in the sky in sedona last

875
00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:42,399
year

876
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,799
so what you mean is like if you've seen

877
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:46,320
a craft there's

878
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:48,880
there's probably more to the story or or

879
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:50,559
what do you mean by that

880
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:53,039
that is exactly what i mean i they do

881
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:54,799
not have to show themselves

882
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:57,840
yeah they do not have to allow anybody

883
00:31:01,509 --> 00:30:58,880
to know anything

884
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:01,519
that's going on whether that's in a ship

885
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:04,000
whether that's in your bedroom

886
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:06,799
whatever they don't they can allow you

887
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:08,320
to know or they can keep it

888
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:10,720
quiet right and so i think every time

889
00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:12,320
that they show something like that is

890
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:13,600
for a purpose

891
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:16,399
right and i often think that it's us who

892
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:18,080
have had experiences before that

893
00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:19,360
we are picking up those messages

894
00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:21,200
whatever they may be

895
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:24,880
man so do you think that there's like

896
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:27,840
way more people out there that have had

897
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:29,440
experiences that just

898
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:32,480
don't even know it absolutely you know i

899
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:32,799
think

900
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:36,080
have had these experiences

901
00:31:39,909 --> 00:31:37,840
i you know i kind of feel the same way

902
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:39,919
like the more i talk to people

903
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:44,000
like you it almost seems like

904
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:46,080
like you would think that 80 of the

905
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:47,919
population has probably had some sort of

906
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:49,760
experience and just doesn't even know

907
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:51,919
about it it's like these very like

908
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:54,880
like random occasions or like you go see

909
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:56,799
stan friedman talk in college and all of

910
00:31:59,669 --> 00:31:57,600
a sudden it

911
00:32:01,590 --> 00:31:59,679
it turns a key and just opens your mind

912
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:01,600
to this this whole

913
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:04,720
epic novel of information you had no

914
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:05,440
clue

915
00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:09,200
existed you know yeah right right

916
00:32:12,549 --> 00:32:11,679
i think there has to be that kind of key

917
00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:12,559
but i also

918
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:14,799
happen to think that there's a lot of

919
00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:16,320
things that are happening now that are

920
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:18,720
turning the keys for a lot of people

921
00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:22,159
and um you know there's banter about the

922
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:25,039
idea of awakening and ascension and it's

923
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:26,320
bleeding out

924
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,360
past just the you know the woo talk it's

925
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:31,360
a lot of people are experiencing this

926
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:32,399
and um

927
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:34,799
and i'm finding it really interesting

928
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:36,880
watching these people

929
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:39,600
understand like oh my gosh i've had

930
00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:40,799
contact

931
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:43,919
and and i almost wonder if i had to go

932
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:45,760
through this early and understand this

933
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,440
early so that i could be here to help

934
00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:49,120
support those that are

935
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:51,919
just now figuring it out right yeah i

936
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:52,480
mean

937
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,399
to have some money guide

938
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,880
have somebody to ask or answer questions

939
00:33:01,430 --> 00:33:00,720
is probably just as important as the

940
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:01,440
awakening

941
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:05,039
itself it's like you don't want to uh

942
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:07,840
have somebody wake up uh in a human body

943
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:09,840
and and not have somebody teach you

944
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:11,039
teach you how to

945
00:33:15,269 --> 00:33:14,000
you know live or eat or walk and stuff

946
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:15,279
to be

947
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,320
you die right so yeah i agree with you

948
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:19,840
like it does seem to be like

949
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:23,679
that ascension talk that that uh idea

950
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:25,600
has been really bleeding into mainstream

951
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:27,440
i've been seeing it a lot on tick tock

952
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:29,600
i'm on tick tock and i see

953
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:31,519
like more you know just everyday people

954
00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:33,760
talking about hey yeah so i keep seeing

955
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:35,360
all this awakening stuff and since i

956
00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:37,039
started seeing this awakening stuff i've

957
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:38,159
started to like

958
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:40,960
have really strange dreams and started

959
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:42,960
seeing synchronicities in my life like

960
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:44,720
every day and i started seeing the clock

961
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:45,200
at

962
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,960
i think i've been interested in this

963
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:52,799
stuff for so long it's just like

964
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:54,960
duh you've never heard of that but yeah

965
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:56,799
like a lot of people are like

966
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:59,039
what this shit's real what what's going

967
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:00,320
on right now

968
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:04,000
so do you think we're kind of in 2020 is

969
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:05,360
is

970
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:07,760
we're kind of entering some kind of

971
00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:09,440
dimension that

972
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:13,200
we're not we're kind of bleeding into a

973
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:15,440
new reality or something just a shifting

974
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:16,800
of a mindset

975
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:19,919
as a collective you know

976
00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:21,919
absolutely i think that's exactly what's

977
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:24,079
going on as a collective

978
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:26,399
and and obviously there's quite a bit of

979
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:27,679
tension and

980
00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:30,079
dissension among the ranks you know the

981
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:30,879
the country

982
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:33,760
feels like it's splitting apart however

983
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:35,679
there is this

984
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:38,399
other side of things which is this love

985
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,599
based ascension

986
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:41,599
let's work together we've got other

987
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:43,760
stuff to worry about guys

988
00:34:47,829 --> 00:34:46,240
idea that is floating over and i think

989
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:47,839
that

990
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:50,320
really it's passing from person to

991
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:52,000
person to person this is really a

992
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:53,440
grassroots

993
00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:56,879
like energetic movement as people

994
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:59,520
awaken and understand and come to terms

995
00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:01,119
and then they start to spread it and

996
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:02,079
talk and and i

997
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:05,680
and i see it just spreading out in this

998
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:06,480
beautiful

999
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:10,560
love wave sounds goofy but i'm seeing it

1000
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:13,280
and i know that tides are about to turn

1001
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:14,160
right

1002
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:16,320
yeah i feel like it started a a couple

1003
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,160
of years ago with like a veganism

1004
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:19,920
movement where you're like hey let's

1005
00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:21,680
like hey we all live on this planet

1006
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:23,440
let's be nice and not like stop eating

1007
00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:25,200
so many damn animals like okay

1008
00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:27,599
yeah i can't go fully into that i love

1009
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,640
steak but

1010
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:30,240
it's almost like it was a little too

1011
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:32,480
much information at first and now it's

1012
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:35,040
it's more it's it's kind of on brand and

1013
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:36,720
the marketing is right i guess

1014
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,200
yeah from that perspective like the love

1015
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:41,280
thing it sounds so corny at first you

1016
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,079
know if it's too

1017
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:45,200
far down that path but

1018
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:47,839
as as we kind of shift into this this

1019
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:49,359
new reality that i think we're all

1020
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:50,640
experiencing we're kind of

1021
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:53,200
a little bit a little bit more open to

1022
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:54,320
those those concepts

1023
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:57,440
right it's kind of cool absolutely and i

1024
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:58,320
think that

1025
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:00,640
you know a lot of people have struggled

1026
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:03,280
with the the pandemic and

1027
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:05,200
um you know oh my god there's nothing i

1028
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:07,040
can do i'm afraid to go out

1029
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:10,480
i i know so many people are not

1030
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:13,040
working and there's financial troubles

1031
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:14,079
and um

1032
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:18,000
there's so much struggle and yet

1033
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:19,760
you know i don't have answers for those

1034
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:21,440
people that are struggling so

1035
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,079
hard right now but it is also an

1036
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:26,560
excellent opportunity to turn within

1037
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,359
and work on these things and like what

1038
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:30,960
else am i going to do let's get

1039
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:32,880
bottom to the bottom of my childhood

1040
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:34,000
trauma let's

1041
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:36,079
let's turn to the counselors let's do

1042
00:36:40,710 --> 00:36:38,160
something that will help

1043
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:40,720
us move forward at this time and um a

1044
00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:42,000
lot of people are

1045
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:45,440
yeah uh have you yeah man that's yeah

1046
00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:46,720
that's really powerful stuff

1047
00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:50,000
um yeah so have you ever received any

1048
00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:51,359
kind of messages

1049
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:54,800
like this or any kind of uh

1050
00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:57,200
communication from entities that you've

1051
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:58,480
encountered

1052
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:01,119
that could possibly relate to what's

1053
00:37:05,109 --> 00:37:02,480
going on right now

1054
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:05,119
um yeah a lot of experiencers often come

1055
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:07,280
out of their experiences with

1056
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:11,119
a a pers a new perspective and

1057
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:12,640
kind of need to talk about it or spread

1058
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:13,760
the message have you have you

1059
00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:19,750
not while i was on ship the only thing i

1060
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:21,119
could think of was when i was seven

1061
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:22,800
years old and i was allowed to look down

1062
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:23,599
at the planet

1063
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:26,480
through the window in a way and just you

1064
00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:27,680
know wow that's pretty

1065
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:30,320
wow kind of thing but that's that's the

1066
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,359
only

1067
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:33,520
thing i have and and this is something i

1068
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,040
actually go through in the book is like

1069
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,960
what is that what is the agenda why are

1070
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:38,400
they here what's going on

1071
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,680
right and so from all of

1072
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:43,920
my friends that i have and myself there

1073
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:44,880
are several

1074
00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:46,880
very common themes number one take care

1075
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:48,079
of the

1076
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:51,839
come that comes through

1077
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:53,839
strongly for many of us and that's where

1078
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:55,760
people turn to veganism or they you know

1079
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:57,680
become animal rights activists they

1080
00:38:01,829 --> 00:37:59,680
they do these things because they feel

1081
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:01,839
the need to protect the planet um

1082
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:04,000
you know the environmentalists i have a

1083
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:04,880
very good friend who's an

1084
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:06,160
environmentalist that's what she does

1085
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:06,960
for a living

1086
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:10,240
and she's also a contactee so i kind of

1087
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:11,119
wonder if she was

1088
00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:13,520
led in that direction on purpose right

1089
00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:15,119
um and then there's

1090
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:18,560
that a lot of us receive information

1091
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,040
about

1092
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:21,839
either natural disasters catastrophes

1093
00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:23,680
nuclear war very scary stuff

1094
00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:26,079
but i think that those are ways of

1095
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:26,800
saying

1096
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,359
watch out pay attention let's not go

1097
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:31,200
this route because it could go that way

1098
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:35,200
yeah um it could also is it possible

1099
00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:38,079
could it also be specific to the person

1100
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,920
receiving the message

1101
00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:41,200
you know i never thought about that it

1102
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:44,480
very well could be it very well could be

1103
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,960
yeah yeah you get a message of like a

1104
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:48,160
massive like

1105
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:50,400
tsunami or something or tidal wave and

1106
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:51,760
it's like oh well i just happened to

1107
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:52,640
live on the coast

1108
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:54,400
yeah that's probably good information to

1109
00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:55,680
know right or

1110
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:58,640
you know like uh this fiery message and

1111
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:59,119
it's like oh

1112
00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:01,520
i live in california that's probably

1113
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:02,160
obvious

1114
00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:03,760
right you know but yeah maybe it is

1115
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:06,079
specific to certain people yeah

1116
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:08,480
definitely any any way to get their

1117
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:09,119
message

1118
00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:11,040
across and and you know whatever those

1119
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:14,079
messages are and whatever the agenda

1120
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:16,000
my conclusion was if they're telling us

1121
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:17,200
to love each other

1122
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:19,280
take care of the planet and you know

1123
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:20,480
don't cause war

1124
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:22,880
all of those things are really really

1125
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,760
smart

1126
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:25,760
and things that we really need to take

1127
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:27,280
to heart as a planet anyway

1128
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:29,760
so if that's the messages that they're

1129
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:31,680
they're giving us then

1130
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:35,040
by all means yeah right i i just i

1131
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:38,400
i totally agree i i man i i wish the

1132
00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:39,680
experience though

1133
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:42,800
wasn't so dang scary and intrusive right

1134
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,599
like forceful you know like i mean

1135
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:47,359
obviously nobody would

1136
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:49,520
i mean maybe i i think i would elect to

1137
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:51,040
go on a ship for sure but

1138
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:53,280
i mean it's like the way that they do it

1139
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:54,640
sometimes like they just

1140
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:57,359
take you yeah to give you a cool message

1141
00:40:00,390 --> 00:39:58,640
i don't know it doesn't but

1142
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:00,400
you know you also say in the book that

1143
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:02,560
you know like we were saying earlier

1144
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:03,920
these guys aren't perfect

1145
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:06,800
and is it possible that they're just

1146
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:08,079
learning new ways

1147
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,000
i mean you have a hilarious bit in there

1148
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:12,720
where um they turn into the golden girls

1149
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:13,920
and it's almost like they have a sense

1150
00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:15,839
of humor and they're they're

1151
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:18,079
working with you trying to like make

1152
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:20,480
this an easier experience for you

1153
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:23,119
every time you know you're taken they're

1154
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:23,760
learning

1155
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:26,640
how to interact with humans just as much

1156
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:28,480
as you're learning how to

1157
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:30,720
absorb this information that's happening

1158
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:33,280
or the situation you know

1159
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:35,359
absolutely absolutely if you if you

1160
00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:36,480
think back to

1161
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:38,079
what happened with like betty and barney

1162
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,000
hill and the

1163
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:41,920
the just abject terror that they went

1164
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:43,040
through and you know

1165
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:45,119
knowing that barney's shoes were just

1166
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:46,960
scraped all the heck because he was

1167
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:48,640
dragged across the gravel as they

1168
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:50,400
carried him to the ship

1169
00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:52,800
um the ripping of her clothes and all of

1170
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:54,160
these things it is very

1171
00:41:02,390 --> 00:40:58,720
violent and scary for them i don't think

1172
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:02,400
that the encounters are as brutal as

1173
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:04,640
that they've learned how to control our

1174
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:06,640
minds they've learned how to

1175
00:41:13,109 --> 00:41:10,480
keep us calm to either hide things or

1176
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:13,119
plant information you know in our minds

1177
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:13,760
in a more

1178
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:17,359
subtle and gentle way yeah

1179
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:19,760
and i think that and i this is like a

1180
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:21,440
study i want to do i don't know how to

1181
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:22,240
do it but

1182
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:24,800
to track those changes from early

1183
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:26,400
abduction experiences

1184
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:29,520
to present oh that that that's awesome

1185
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:31,440
yeah you know it kind of makes me think

1186
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:33,599
of like if you think of whales

1187
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:35,440
right like back in the day i mean we

1188
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:36,800
would just go and just like

1189
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:39,280
murder a whale so we can get some some

1190
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:40,560
you know some lamp fluid

1191
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:42,960
yeah or whatever make some makeup or do

1192
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:44,640
whatever you needed to do but like as

1193
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:45,920
time progressed

1194
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:48,560
humans were like holy crap whales are

1195
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:51,359
extremely smart they're almost like

1196
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:54,560
as smart as humans yeah exactly exactly

1197
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:55,440
and so

1198
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:58,560
now we have this tendency to treat them

1199
00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:59,839
differently when we

1200
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:02,160
encounter them in the wild because of

1201
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:03,280
what we've learned

1202
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:05,200
and so it would kind of make sense that

1203
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:07,040
you know another species would come

1204
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:08,240
across us and

1205
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:10,880
you know maybe just drag us you know at

1206
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:11,359
first

1207
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:13,520
you know and then start realizing over

1208
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:15,040
years and

1209
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:18,400
decades and centuries of you know

1210
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:19,680
you know doing this research they're

1211
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:21,280
like man these guys are maybe kind of

1212
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:22,800
smart they're a little sentient you know

1213
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,920
like they have

1214
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:25,680
a purpose maybe we should start trying

1215
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:27,200
to treat them a little better or

1216
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:28,560
something you know

1217
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:30,160
it's kind of yeah let's work within the

1218
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:31,920
confines of their minds instead of

1219
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:33,440
destroying it let's

1220
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:36,720
enhance it right right yeah

1221
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:38,800
cool so i have an idea so that this

1222
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:40,480
might uh

1223
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:42,319
kind of come full circle with that

1224
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:44,319
question i think joe asked uh

1225
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,920
you aaron is it that how many different

1226
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:49,760
species that you've come in contact with

1227
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:50,480
i think this

1228
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:53,280
this statement i'll say is like what if

1229
00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:53,760
uh

1230
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:55,839
you know some some species are really

1231
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:57,359
good at interacting with

1232
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,040
humans and they have figured that out

1233
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:01,440
and there are some aliens that

1234
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:03,040
that come down and they don't know what

1235
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:04,480
they're doing yet and it's almost like

1236
00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:06,640
earth earth is kind of like a

1237
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:10,160
a stage website you know or a sandbox

1238
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:12,000
place where you can go and just practice

1239
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:13,440
or for new

1240
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:16,000
uh species to come down and like hey so

1241
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:17,280
uh i would suggest

1242
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:18,880
okay these guys are they're kind of

1243
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:20,400
ape-like but they won't

1244
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:22,400
they can't kill you like you're fine you

1245
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:24,240
go practice on on humans first

1246
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,680
and then you could go to the more

1247
00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:27,599
advanced civilizations and study them

1248
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:30,319
yeah you know that would be interesting

1249
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:33,200
and i wouldn't be surprised

1250
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:34,640
yeah so i guess the question would be

1251
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:37,040
like is it your experience that

1252
00:43:44,950 --> 00:43:41,680
that you've witnessed multiple species

1253
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:44,960
i have um there there was

1254
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:47,599
one of the most recent i guess then

1255
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:48,000
that's

1256
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:50,079
the clearest in my mind i i have

1257
00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:52,079
experiences all the time but not very

1258
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:53,839
many stick

1259
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,680
and so there was one in october of 2018

1260
00:44:02,870 --> 00:43:59,599
i think it was october 27th

1261
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:02,880
and it was so clear um

1262
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:05,440
i was asleep the blankets were pulled

1263
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:07,280
off of me which woke me up

1264
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:09,040
i that's like a common thing they just

1265
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:10,800
like pull the blankets off like oh

1266
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,599
rude and i my eye yes exactly my eyes

1267
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:15,599
pop open and there's three beings in the

1268
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:16,640
room

1269
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:19,040
three is very common often they're all

1270
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:20,480
three grays but this time

1271
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:23,839
there was a gray type there was this

1272
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:26,400
drippy brown guy i don't know he looked

1273
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:28,480
like a crayon that got hot

1274
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:30,400
melting i don't know i have never seen

1275
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:32,480
anything or heard anything

1276
00:44:36,069 --> 00:44:34,079
about a creature that looks like this

1277
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:36,079
ever anywhere so

1278
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:37,760
if anybody knows anything about this

1279
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:40,000
kind of being let me know

1280
00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:43,760
um and then you said like a cl like a

1281
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:44,720
clam

1282
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:47,359
is it a crayon it's like a melted crayon

1283
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:48,160
oh oh

1284
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:50,720
got it sorry or out candle yeah he was

1285
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:51,599
just like

1286
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:54,560
melted sorry um he reminded me of

1287
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:56,960
zoidberg i guess

1288
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:59,119
he loved that [\h__\h] but thin yeah but

1289
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,240
thin and skinny

1290
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:02,480
but it looked like his mouth was melting

1291
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,240
off i don't i don't know he was bizarre

1292
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:06,480
but then there was also this very tall

1293
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:09,280
being with uh chalky white skin very

1294
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:10,560
large eyes

1295
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:15,280
very round head um and i knew him

1296
00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:17,119
i knew this thing and oh it's you and i

1297
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:18,640
reached out my hand and he took my hand

1298
00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:19,760
and he took me outside

1299
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:23,920
um so there were three different beings

1300
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:26,480
all in that one experience and um i

1301
00:45:29,349 --> 00:45:27,359
don't know why

1302
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:29,359
i don't know where they're from i don't

1303
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:32,400
have any of that information

1304
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:35,040
dang yeah sorry i realized that we've

1305
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:36,319
already asked that question i

1306
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,560
realized like uh that's maybe the second

1307
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:40,079
time we passed it

1308
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:44,319
but i apologize for that

1309
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:48,000
i just i mean yeah that is the first

1310
00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:50,160
time that i've heard of some

1311
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:54,160
you know uh wax dripping

1312
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:57,200
type of of being as well i've never

1313
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:57,920
heard of that

1314
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:59,440
and when i read that i was like oh

1315
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:01,280
that's pretty interesting

1316
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:04,000
uh i don't know how i would react to

1317
00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:05,200
that either

1318
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:08,560
and so you know you said to the the the

1319
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:11,599
pale chalky one like it's you

1320
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:14,640
and like you recognized him and you know

1321
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:15,520
you

1322
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:19,040
outside

1323
00:46:25,349 --> 00:46:22,480
during this during this happening

1324
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:25,359
do you wake up with an initial fear or

1325
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:25,839
do you

1326
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:28,240
wake up and everything's fine because

1327
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:28,960
they've done

1328
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:33,200
something to you to make it fine

1329
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:36,079
it depends on the experience um and i

1330
00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:37,359
think it also it

1331
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:40,400
depends on where i'm at you know

1332
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:43,599
in the early experiences when i was just

1333
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:45,520
trying to come to terms with this

1334
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:47,440
if i was woken up i went immediately

1335
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:48,560
into fear

1336
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:51,760
that time however i did not okay

1337
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:54,160
and this was you know i was already

1338
00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:55,440
starting to write the book

1339
00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:58,880
um i was already processing a lot of

1340
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:00,240
this stuff

1341
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:03,440
and um and so i was fine like and

1342
00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:05,520
and and actually in the chapter where i

1343
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:07,359
described what this happens i was really

1344
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:08,160
surprised

1345
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,720
and wondered about myself like wait when

1346
00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:12,480
did i switch sides here when did this

1347
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:15,119
all of a sudden become okay

1348
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:16,800
because now i'm okay with it and i don't

1349
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:18,400
know why

1350
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:20,800
whoo man that's that's that's that's a

1351
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:21,920
lot yeah that's a lot

1352
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,960
and so i you know if it's something that

1353
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:26,319
you're willing to go into

1354
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:28,480
you know this uh you know you have a

1355
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:30,240
portion where we talk about you know

1356
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:30,720
this

1357
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:38,480
is

1358
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:42,800
your abductions

1359
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:45,760
that you know of or is it just another

1360
00:47:49,589 --> 00:47:46,240
small

1361
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:49,599
part to the whole story

1362
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:52,640
i think it is a fraction of the story it

1363
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:53,520
is

1364
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:56,160
maybe a large fraction how it's not

1365
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:57,200
everything

1366
00:48:00,950 --> 00:48:00,400
um i know that the dna is precious i

1367
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:00,960
know

1368
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:03,119
that they are doing their best to create

1369
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:04,240
these children for

1370
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:06,960
i have no idea what it means i don't

1371
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:07,760
know what they're doing

1372
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:09,359
with these children i know that the

1373
00:48:11,589 --> 00:48:10,960
connection with their mothers is very

1374
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:11,599
important

1375
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:13,760
well and the fathers i know several men

1376
00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:15,119
that have

1377
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:17,839
had encounters with their children um

1378
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:19,520
their hybrid children um

1379
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:21,520
i you know and i wish i understood what

1380
00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:23,359
was going on

1381
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:25,119
i do still have contact with the

1382
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:26,640
children

1383
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:29,839
but the that's only part of it um and i

1384
00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:31,839
and it goes back to the you know the

1385
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:33,680
four-year-old me playing with the blocks

1386
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,160
and

1387
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:36,559
then like a ten-year-old me who's being

1388
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:38,400
trained on how to manipulate gravity why

1389
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:39,839
did i need to learn that

1390
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:42,720
right right and boy i wish i could still

1391
00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:43,920
do it

1392
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:47,359
yeah yeah and then i mean and then even

1393
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:50,880
going to you know i i think it was 11

1394
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:52,800
where you know they took you and they

1395
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:54,319
checked you out to

1396
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:56,319
make sure maybe you were ready to go you

1397
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:57,920
know for this this hybrid

1398
00:49:02,230 --> 00:49:01,440
you know issue and that was right before

1399
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:02,240
my

1400
00:49:09,349 --> 00:49:05,359
started so yeah

1401
00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:09,359
what wow so they like they knew it

1402
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:12,880
and that's just like i

1403
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:15,839
i'm at a loss for words almost on like

1404
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:18,160
just how

1405
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:19,599
you know you think about this whole

1406
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,200
thing and it's like oh yeah they're

1407
00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:23,440
they're alien maybe they're they're uh

1408
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:25,359
you know they make mistakes too

1409
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:27,599
you know but then also at the same time

1410
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:29,440
to know

1411
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:31,920
um be so advanced to the point to where

1412
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:33,200
they would know

1413
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:35,440
you know right before a female hits

1414
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:36,480
puberty to

1415
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,480
to just know and and be able to check

1416
00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:40,720
that like

1417
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:43,359
without having any sort of i don't know

1418
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:44,480
like

1419
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:46,160
i guess i guess if they're abducting you

1420
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:47,359
and you didn't know about it you

1421
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:48,720
probably visited them more than you

1422
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:50,319
visited an actual doctor

1423
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:53,599
whoa i probably did i

1424
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:56,400
probably did yeah this right here could

1425
00:50:01,589 --> 00:49:58,559
be why there's implants

1426
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:01,599
oh track this could be gathering that

1427
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:02,800
biological

1428
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:04,960
information and transmitting it back to

1429
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:06,559
you know who knows where

1430
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:10,079
um if i was chipped so to speak when i

1431
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:10,880
was seven

1432
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:13,280
then maybe that information was related

1433
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,119
to them but it was time

1434
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:17,280
whoa of course i don't know if i had any

1435
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:18,720
experiences between the two i would

1436
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:19,200
assume

1437
00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:22,240
i did right right so our

1438
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:24,640
our our friend lorian calls them space

1439
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:25,440
babies

1440
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:28,640
um do you have an idea of like maybe how

1441
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:30,400
many

1442
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:34,480
space babies are out there a whole bunch

1443
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:38,720
a whole bunch um yeah i i remember

1444
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:41,359
several of them in specific i would

1445
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,240
assume that there's more i mean

1446
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:46,000
it's almost doesn't sound awful but it's

1447
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:48,319
almost like a roach if you see

1448
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:50,559
a roach you know that there's a thousand

1449
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,760
more in the walls or

1450
00:50:55,589 --> 00:50:53,440
or whatever you know so i think that

1451
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:55,599
once you have a memory

1452
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:57,119
there's going to be several other that

1453
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:03,829
and i have i have specific memories of

1454
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:05,760
the birth of several of them

1455
00:51:11,589 --> 00:51:08,800
um and i have

1456
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:11,599
i don't know just information in my head

1457
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:13,520
it's hard to explain these things but

1458
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:14,000
there's

1459
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:17,280
like i see them i i've drawn

1460
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:18,960
several of them i've done a couple of

1461
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:22,240
paintings um and

1462
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:24,640
and it's interesting i and i get kind of

1463
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:26,240
confused because you know i have my own

1464
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:27,040
children and

1465
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,400
um i could like how am i okay with not

1466
00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:32,160
being with these other children how am i

1467
00:51:35,829 --> 00:51:32,800
okay

1468
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:35,839
is it not raising them and i know that

1469
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:37,520
some

1470
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:40,160
contactees the females are not okay with

1471
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:42,079
that but i'm okay with it i don't

1472
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:43,839
i don't understand my psychology when it

1473
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:46,640
comes to that right all right

1474
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:48,800
i do get to bond with them i do get to

1475
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:54,150
but i don't know i'm just that little

1476
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:55,440
part of their lives

1477
00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:58,400
yeah maybe it's like do you sometimes

1478
00:52:01,109 --> 00:52:00,559
get a sense that it's for a greater

1479
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:01,119
cause

1480
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:05,760
maybe that is is a a reason enough to

1481
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:11,040
to not feel as attached or or concerned

1482
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:12,559
you know that very well could be it

1483
00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:15,040
could be that on some level i understand

1484
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:16,000
this is

1485
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:17,920
not going to say like a contract but

1486
00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:20,480
maybe on some level i understand what's

1487
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:22,160
going on and what the purpose is

1488
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:24,800
right and i'm okay with it and also that

1489
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:27,040
it's just completely out of your hands

1490
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:30,559
anyways that is true yeah you know

1491
00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:32,640
that's true

1492
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:34,800
and also sorry no you're good you're

1493
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:36,480
good i mean i just i was just thinking

1494
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:37,520
about you know like

1495
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:39,599
you know melinda leslie and like her

1496
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:40,800
stories and like

1497
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:43,359
you know there's always like that one

1498
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:45,280
that one point in her story where it

1499
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:46,960
kind of chokes her up a little bit and

1500
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,520
it's just

1501
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:48,960
you know you can you can definitely

1502
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:51,280
sense that she has that feeling that you

1503
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,839
know

1504
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:53,680
aaron that you're talking about like

1505
00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:55,599
this this you know

1506
00:53:00,069 --> 00:52:58,880
such a strong connection but not being

1507
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:00,079
able to

1508
00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:03,680
interact with it on your own

1509
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:06,720
you know at will basically you know

1510
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:08,880
and right man i mean that's that's just

1511
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:10,079
you know

1512
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:14,960
extraordinary the seating and stuff like

1513
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:16,160
that so you know

1514
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:18,319
we're not like super well versed in it

1515
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:20,240
but we know about it and man like i

1516
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:22,880
i just couldn't even i couldn't even

1517
00:53:27,190 --> 00:53:24,319
like imagine that man

1518
00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:27,200
you know like even even as a guy it's

1519
00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:27,680
like

1520
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:29,839
that's that's your seed man you know

1521
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:31,280
they just took your seed and

1522
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:33,119
and did whatever you know whatever they

1523
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:34,319
needed to do to it

1524
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:37,760
right i i you know

1525
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:40,960
yeah i mean if that ever happened to me

1526
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:43,599
i would i would think that in my head i

1527
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:45,760
would have that same kind of mentality

1528
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:47,200
of like

1529
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:48,960
yeah there's absolutely one nothing i

1530
00:53:53,349 --> 00:53:50,400
can do about it and two

1531
00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:53,359
maybe it is for a greater purpose you

1532
00:54:07,349 --> 00:53:54,160
know

1533
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:07,359
humans and the people that are doing the

1534
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,480
you know the hybridization um

1535
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:12,400
maybe it's to make it easier on humans i

1536
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:13,520
don't know i don't know we're all just

1537
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:15,119
guessing here right i mean

1538
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,640
we don't know we don't know anything

1539
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:20,400
we don't have a clue and i think that

1540
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:22,160
it's uh

1541
00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:24,480
healthier in our minds to say there's

1542
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:26,480
nothing we can do about it

1543
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:29,280
because there really isn't we can't stop

1544
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:29,520
it

1545
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,960
in any way that i can think of and so if

1546
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:36,640
i was to fret about it i would make

1547
00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:38,319
myself sick right

1548
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:45,030
that's that's some heavy heavy stuff you

1549
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:47,119
know like yeah

1550
00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:51,119
yeah it's man that's a lot

1551
00:54:56,069 --> 00:54:54,160
uh it is a lot yeah it is a lot and

1552
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:56,079
the human reads amazing like that's a

1553
00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:57,440
lot so we're not

1554
00:55:01,589 --> 00:54:59,440
going to worry about it right now right

1555
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:01,599
just like that

1556
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:03,839
over there and maybe later we'll address

1557
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:05,200
it right it's almost like

1558
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:08,000
the the mystery the reason that like

1559
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:09,920
like we don't know what the purpose is

1560
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:11,760
almost makes everything a little bit

1561
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:13,440
more okay because if we knew

1562
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:16,319
the full plan the whole agenda it would

1563
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:17,280
be

1564
00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:20,240
kind of i don't know as humans we try to

1565
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:20,799
solve

1566
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:22,640
puzzles all the time if we always knew

1567
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:23,920
the answer like what's the point of

1568
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:25,040
doing the puzzle

1569
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:27,839
you know it's like if we if we knew the

1570
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:29,359
purpose of this whole thing would we

1571
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:29,839
just

1572
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:32,880
be like well this is dumb i don't

1573
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:35,280
i don't want to do this anymore uh but

1574
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:36,240
you know i don't know

1575
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:39,440
so so i also had a thought um have you

1576
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:40,799
guys heard of like

1577
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:43,359
the idea that our souls are

1578
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:45,280
intergalactic it does it's not human or

1579
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:46,880
whatever but our souls

1580
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:48,160
are kind of you know it's just

1581
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:50,079
consciousness and it can jump from

1582
00:55:53,589 --> 00:55:52,079
one reality one universe to the other

1583
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:53,599
and our

1584
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:56,240
previous consciousness has signed a

1585
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:56,960
contract

1586
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,720
for to be a human on earth for a

1587
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:00,319
specific amount of time

1588
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:03,920
and we've already agreed to to go into

1589
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:04,559
this

1590
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:07,680
human life uh with amnesia to not

1591
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:09,520
remember the past but some people kind

1592
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:10,720
of bleed through like that's why

1593
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:12,160
children sometimes

1594
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,960
remember past lives and things like that

1595
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:16,319
and uh it

1596
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:18,160
like kind of intertwines with

1597
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:20,079
reincarnation where you're like

1598
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:21,839
at the end of one life you're like hey

1599
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:23,680
so do you want to ride again or do

1600
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,480
are you going to go home like and there

1601
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:28,480
that's the idea like yes okay i'll do

1602
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:30,480
i'll be another human again let's do it

1603
00:56:34,710 --> 00:56:33,280
and then you and you go back in i just

1604
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:34,720
thought of that about that because it's

1605
00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:37,440
it's it is kind of an alien thought

1606
00:56:40,789 --> 00:56:38,559
because that would mean

1607
00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:40,799
it is an alien thought it actually is

1608
00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:41,920
and i

1609
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:43,599
you know you hear about different

1610
00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:45,520
experiences getting downloads of

1611
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:47,359
information you know maybe it's quantum

1612
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:50,000
physics maybe it's mechanics maybe it's

1613
00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:52,000
mathematics maybe it's about ancient

1614
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:53,680
civilizations well the information that

1615
00:56:57,670 --> 00:56:54,799
i receive

1616
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:57,680
is about the soul and how it splits into

1617
00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:58,079
separate

1618
00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:01,359
lives and that and that is

1619
00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:04,480
been driven into my head how to

1620
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:07,280
how to access other selves how to work

1621
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:07,920
with

1622
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:10,000
you know the idea of past life to me is

1623
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:11,680
it's a misnomer

1624
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:15,040
because there is no time wow yeah so

1625
00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:18,480
and so every life we have

1626
00:57:22,630 --> 00:57:21,599
lived past present future other

1627
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:22,640
dimensions whatever

1628
00:57:26,309 --> 00:57:24,799
is all simultaneously happening

1629
00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:26,319
happening just in a different

1630
00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:30,000
space-time location interesting i got

1631
00:57:34,390 --> 00:57:31,119
chills

1632
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:34,400
yes that's cool and so if they are just

1633
00:57:38,230 --> 00:57:36,480
in a different space-time location we

1634
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,240
actually have the ability to communicate

1635
00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:40,000
with our other selves

1636
00:57:46,710 --> 00:57:43,280
we can help other our other selves

1637
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:46,720
we can heal and teach

1638
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:50,400
our other selves once we learn how to do

1639
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:51,200
that

1640
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:54,240
and of course this is at this

1641
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:57,680
level of density of of reality i want to

1642
00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:00,000
raise up you know that ascension idea of

1643
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:02,240
going up into a 5d reality that's where

1644
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:02,960
the soul

1645
00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:06,319
comes together as one hmm cool

1646
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:08,319
i have a question and it's more of kind

1647
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:10,480
of a thought um but when we're talking

1648
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:11,920
about the soul

1649
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:14,240
and this this uh this whole

1650
00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:16,799
hybridization thing

1651
00:58:20,150 --> 00:58:19,119
maybe even dimensions i mean we're kind

1652
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:20,160
of packing a lot

1653
00:58:25,030 --> 00:58:23,040
into this into this one right here but

1654
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:25,040
to me i'm kind of thinking like

1655
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:28,400
what if what if these beings have

1656
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:31,200
advanced so far that maybe they have

1657
00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:32,000
like

1658
00:58:38,069 --> 00:58:36,079
become in a way uh become soulless

1659
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:38,079
so instead of us thinking that maybe

1660
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:39,200
they come here

1661
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:42,640
and harvest dna for biological reasons

1662
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:43,280
or whatever

1663
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:45,760
what if maybe you know like they're

1664
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:47,680
harvesting souls instead

1665
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:50,799
it's a soul harvest for their

1666
00:58:57,430 --> 00:58:54,400
their next step of evolutionary process

1667
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:57,440
to them uh what about instead of soul

1668
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:00,720
harvest and soul infusion

1669
00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:02,319
i'll take that as well that sounds a lot

1670
00:59:06,789 --> 00:59:04,240
less scary yeah it sounds like a nice

1671
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:06,799
fruity drink like a sparkling water

1672
00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:09,040
something palatable i enjoy that a lot

1673
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:10,079
better yes

1674
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:12,400
soul infusion that's gonna be the name

1675
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:15,520
of my next jazz band oh my gosh

1676
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:18,960
i love that yes soul infusion yeah

1677
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:20,880
let's go with that let's go with that i

1678
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:23,280
mean that

1679
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:26,000
if if your theory you know you know this

1680
00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:27,680
postulation of

1681
00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:30,160
maybe they have evolved so far they no

1682
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:32,240
longer are connected to soul

1683
00:59:37,349 --> 00:59:34,799
if they create a hybrid child that is

1684
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:37,359
part human part them

1685
00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:39,280
the human part is going to have that

1686
00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:41,359
little bit of soul come in and so

1687
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:44,559
that would be a soul infusion

1688
00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:47,280
in a way yeah it's interesting that

1689
00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:48,960
almost makes me feel like

1690
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:52,480
as humans this is why

1691
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:54,160
these extraterrestrials are so

1692
00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:55,839
interested in us and we have

1693
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:58,319
so much potential that we just don't

1694
01:00:02,069 --> 00:59:59,280
realize

1695
01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:02,079
it's like this i think that's like every

1696
01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:03,200
kind of genesis

1697
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:06,400
story right for every super hero or

1698
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:08,319
comic book it's like

1699
01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:12,160
one day this kid or woman or man

1700
01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:14,720
realizes they have this power i think

1701
01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:16,640
there's a reason why we find that so

1702
01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:19,599
fascinating for for fiction right is

1703
01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:20,319
because i think

1704
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:23,040
deep down we all wish that one day we

1705
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:23,920
wake up and

1706
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:26,960
oh i could climb walls man yeah like we

1707
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:30,000
all individually feel this power that we

1708
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:31,440
can't access

1709
01:00:35,109 --> 01:00:33,359
but for some reason we feel like it's

1710
01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:35,119
there yeah and we don't know how to get

1711
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:36,720
to it yeah yeah

1712
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:38,880
definitely i think yes absolutely i

1713
01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:39,760
think that

1714
01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:42,799
most of us feel that way

1715
01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:44,799
yeah definitely unless you can do more

1716
01:00:49,270 --> 01:00:46,160
stuff like i know

1717
01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:49,280
that i have telekinesis yes but i can't

1718
01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:50,559
make anything move

1719
01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:52,400
and i don't get it yeah like you've seen

1720
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:55,599
yourself do it like you have memories

1721
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:58,559
of that and it like oh man i mean i

1722
01:01:01,589 --> 01:00:59,599
think

1723
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:01,599
i used to have flying dreams a lot when

1724
01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:02,960
i was a kid and i would wake up it's

1725
01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:03,280
like

1726
01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:12,160
memories are

1727
01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:15,359
or these experiences like you could move

1728
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:15,839
stuff

1729
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:18,960
like that's super cool um yeah i think

1730
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:19,599
that's awesome

1731
01:01:25,270 --> 01:01:22,799
figure out how to do it so let's go

1732
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:25,280
go no go for it i was gonna i was gonna

1733
01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:27,119
go i was gonna segue somewhere else but

1734
01:01:30,789 --> 01:01:29,040
i want to hear what you have to say

1735
01:01:32,309 --> 01:01:30,799
i was gonna say when i was taught about

1736
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:32,319
the gravity manipulation

1737
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:35,359
and i was able to it felt like flying

1738
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:36,640
you never know that could be where your

1739
01:01:39,829 --> 01:01:38,319
flying dreams come from right we've

1740
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:39,839
already established that you probably

1741
01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:42,000
have experiences yourselves

1742
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:45,040
so here we go but

1743
01:01:51,430 --> 01:01:48,400
uh yeah so after that i

1744
01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:51,440
i remember and i don't even know why i

1745
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:52,240
did this

1746
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:53,920
when i was in elementary school i would

1747
01:01:58,069 --> 01:01:56,160
tell my friend pick me up

1748
01:02:00,230 --> 01:01:58,079
and she would pick me up and put me down

1749
01:02:02,470 --> 01:02:00,240
and i then i would shift my weight

1750
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:02,480
just a fraction and so do it again and

1751
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:03,520
she couldn't

1752
01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:06,000
she could not lift me up huh and then

1753
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:07,599
i'd relax and say okay pick me up and

1754
01:02:10,309 --> 01:02:08,720
she's like what

1755
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:10,319
and she picked me up and it was fine and

1756
01:02:12,789 --> 01:02:11,760
i would shift again and say do it again

1757
01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:12,799
and she couldn't

1758
01:02:17,029 --> 01:02:15,920
so there was something i was retaining

1759
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:17,039
at that point in time

1760
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:19,280
about the gravity manipulation but i

1761
01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:20,720
don't know whoa

1762
01:02:24,309 --> 01:02:23,200
wow very interesting that's super cool

1763
01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:24,319
yeah

1764
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:28,400
this is i'm just making this random

1765
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:29,520
connection but you know those little

1766
01:02:31,910 --> 01:02:30,240
bracelets

1767
01:02:33,829 --> 01:02:31,920
that that say that like the power

1768
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:33,839
bracelet and they start they say like

1769
01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:35,280
push your arm up and then

1770
01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:37,200
you put on the bracelet and now you like

1771
01:02:40,710 --> 01:02:38,400
obviously it's the person

1772
01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:40,720
like letting go but yeah it just

1773
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:42,880
reminded me of that

1774
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:46,240
but yeah man yes cool so i was gonna i

1775
01:02:50,150 --> 01:02:46,960
was gonna

1776
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:50,160
go on to the uh you had mentioned

1777
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:51,119
something about like

1778
01:02:55,029 --> 01:02:52,319
we're talking about dimensions and

1779
01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:57,829
you so you say that you you have the uh

1780
01:03:02,309 --> 01:02:58,319
i guess

1781
01:03:02,870 --> 01:03:02,319
the ability or the um the know-how to i

1782
01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:02,880
guess

1783
01:03:09,109 --> 01:03:05,920
uh maybe shift dimensions a little bit

1784
01:03:10,789 --> 01:03:09,119
like you you i don't know how to word it

1785
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:10,799
correctly but do you know what kind of

1786
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:12,720
what i'm getting at if i can

1787
01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:16,079
either but yes i yeah um that is one of

1788
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:18,079
the things that i have been taught

1789
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:20,720
right yes it was horrible that night was

1790
01:03:23,109 --> 01:03:22,240
horrible i had to call in sick the next

1791
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:23,119
day

1792
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:26,000
um but it is all you know when i say

1793
01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:28,240
that i work as a shaman that that's what

1794
01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:30,960
it is i'm able to i may be sitting here

1795
01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:32,240
and looking at you and talking to you

1796
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:32,880
but i can

1797
01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:36,000
shift and go into different places

1798
01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:38,480
see different things and and do healings

1799
01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:40,319
and things like that bring little bits

1800
01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:41,359
of soul

1801
01:03:47,029 --> 01:03:44,559
back from somebody who like in in those

1802
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:47,039
um different space-time locations have

1803
01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:47,680
lost

1804
01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:50,000
something that can be returned yeah and

1805
01:03:53,910 --> 01:03:51,200
um that's

1806
01:03:54,789 --> 01:03:53,920
i do that a lot wow that's incredible

1807
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:54,799
because that's taught

1808
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:57,520
yeah that's super cool i love that so so

1809
01:04:02,390 --> 01:03:58,799
when you're doing this

1810
01:04:06,309 --> 01:04:02,400
this person if if if something's

1811
01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:06,319
missing so you you say that you can

1812
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:09,520
you can go to this different time of

1813
01:04:14,789 --> 01:04:12,720
of when they were when they were

1814
01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:14,799
alive i guess or whatever and bring

1815
01:04:19,029 --> 01:04:16,000
something back from a

1816
01:04:21,510 --> 01:04:19,039
different them in a different

1817
01:04:22,309 --> 01:04:21,520
time in a different dimension right it's

1818
01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:22,319
kind of

1819
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:26,400
what i'm understanding yes

1820
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:28,240
or it could be it could be them in the

1821
01:04:31,029 --> 01:04:30,480
past could be them in the past okay

1822
01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:31,039
right

1823
01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:34,640
anywhere and so

1824
01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:37,599
and so the way i determine if somebody

1825
01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:38,640
is struggling with this

1826
01:04:42,549 --> 01:04:40,240
is like i have done everything i

1827
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:42,559
possibly can aaron and i just can't seem

1828
01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:44,160
to move forward with my life

1829
01:04:47,990 --> 01:04:46,480
i can never find the love of my life or

1830
01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:48,000
i just cannot

1831
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:50,079
bring the money in that i need and you

1832
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:51,599
know there's something that has them

1833
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:53,200
stuck and they can't move forward and

1834
01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:54,960
then i'd say okay it's time for you to

1835
01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:56,160
be reintegrated

1836
01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:58,000
basically these little bits of self that

1837
01:05:01,029 --> 01:04:59,520
have disappeared

1838
01:05:03,029 --> 01:05:01,039
we need to bring them back so that you

1839
01:05:05,990 --> 01:05:03,039
can move forward because you're

1840
01:05:08,069 --> 01:05:06,000
done done healing those bits so

1841
01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:08,079
oftentimes when there is trauma or there

1842
01:05:11,829 --> 01:05:09,119
is pain and there

1843
01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:11,839
or scary things happen maybe you're

1844
01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:13,119
abused

1845
01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:14,640
you know whatever it is a piece of your

1846
01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:16,240
soul will detach you know the piece that

1847
01:05:21,109 --> 01:05:17,280
was damaged

1848
01:05:22,789 --> 01:05:21,119
will detach from the body and either

1849
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:22,799
somebody will pick it up and keep it or

1850
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:24,240
it will just stay in that space-time

1851
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:26,400
location and those little bits

1852
01:05:32,230 --> 01:05:30,000
can be picked up and returned

1853
01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:32,240
to the to the being because it's time

1854
01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:33,359
for them to heal

1855
01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:36,960
and move forward whoa that like i'm just

1856
01:05:39,029 --> 01:05:38,319
making all these connections as you're

1857
01:05:42,390 --> 01:05:39,039
saying this

1858
01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:42,400
um i almost think that with that

1859
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:45,520
line of thinking uh i guess i've never

1860
01:05:49,829 --> 01:05:47,119
really thought about it this way like

1861
01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:49,839
trauma you say maybe yeah like trauma

1862
01:05:53,349 --> 01:05:51,760
can detach a part of a soul and

1863
01:05:55,510 --> 01:05:53,359
we just say soul because we don't know

1864
01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:55,520
what better word to use right i mean

1865
01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:57,599
i don't really know what it is but but

1866
01:06:01,750 --> 01:05:59,200
that could that could explain

1867
01:06:03,029 --> 01:06:01,760
ghosts and other paranormal activity i

1868
01:06:06,309 --> 01:06:03,039
don't know

1869
01:06:09,029 --> 01:06:06,319
it absolutely does it absolutely does um

1870
01:06:10,870 --> 01:06:09,039
at least in my in my perspective and my

1871
01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:10,880
understanding of things

1872
01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:13,920
absolutely um oftentimes hauntings are

1873
01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:14,319
just

1874
01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:17,440
like the the when somebody passes

1875
01:06:22,549 --> 01:06:20,480
and they ascend to a different dimension

1876
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:22,559
there's a lot of bits of themselves that

1877
01:06:28,309 --> 01:06:23,920
are too heavy

1878
01:06:32,309 --> 01:06:28,319
to go sad the anger the rage the pain

1879
01:06:34,630 --> 01:06:32,319
the addictions those things stay

1880
01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:34,640
and they can attach to people they can

1881
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:35,760
stay in the

1882
01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:37,680
you know where they are at and then and

1883
01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:39,280
then you can interact with these little

1884
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:41,200
bits that are actually you know sentient

1885
01:06:46,150 --> 01:06:42,240
sometimes

1886
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:46,160
um and and you can as a person who

1887
01:06:50,150 --> 01:06:48,960
is the medium or whatnot you can return

1888
01:06:52,950 --> 01:06:50,160
that bit to

1889
01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:52,960
its owner you can help remove it from

1890
01:06:57,190 --> 01:06:53,839
the home or

1891
01:06:59,750 --> 01:06:57,200
from a person if it's attached um

1892
01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:59,760
yeah absolutely that's exactly how i

1893
01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:01,680
conceptualize it or see it and i work

1894
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:02,160
with it

1895
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:05,359
right so uh okay question for you

1896
01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:08,400
have you ever have you ever entered a

1897
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:09,039
room

1898
01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:12,400
not knowing anything about it and like

1899
01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:14,480
i think i think we've talked about this

1900
01:07:17,670 --> 01:07:15,520
joe but like

1901
01:07:19,349 --> 01:07:17,680
got chills and like something's off

1902
01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:19,359
about this room

1903
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:21,520
oh yeah is that something that that you

1904
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:22,480
you work with

1905
01:07:27,029 --> 01:07:25,200
uh currently and it i just kind of i'm

1906
01:07:28,549 --> 01:07:27,039
seeing you as like a like in a movie i'm

1907
01:07:30,309 --> 01:07:28,559
just like picturing you

1908
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:30,319
going in between dimensions and like

1909
01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:31,920
walking into a specific room and like

1910
01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:33,440
picking up a piece of soul and then like

1911
01:07:37,029 --> 01:07:34,960
all right going back and then

1912
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:37,039
boom putting it back into the you know

1913
01:07:38,710 --> 01:07:38,400
the person that you're working with i'm

1914
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:38,720
just

1915
01:07:42,630 --> 01:07:40,880
like visualizing it is that kind of how

1916
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:42,640
it works that

1917
01:07:45,990 --> 01:07:44,720
that is how it works however it may not

1918
01:07:48,309 --> 01:07:46,000
be my physical body that's

1919
01:07:49,349 --> 01:07:48,319
walking into the room right it may just

1920
01:07:52,789 --> 01:07:49,359
be you know

1921
01:07:55,349 --> 01:07:52,799
the natural body because i

1922
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:55,359
i very rarely actually go to a person's

1923
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:56,720
house to do that i mean i do

1924
01:08:02,630 --> 01:08:00,000
but i live in a small town you know so

1925
01:08:05,990 --> 01:08:02,640
there's not a lot of people yes i don't

1926
01:08:09,029 --> 01:08:06,000
advertise this very much

1927
01:08:11,109 --> 01:08:09,039
well now i guess i really can't get away

1928
01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:11,119
with it anymore people

1929
01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:14,400
oh the cat's out of the bag now

1930
01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:16,560
right exactly and that's and that's why

1931
01:08:20,149 --> 01:08:18,719
i titled the book dirty little secret

1932
01:08:23,829 --> 01:08:20,159
because

1933
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:23,839
she said this is hard to expose this man

1934
01:08:28,149 --> 01:08:26,239
it's very hard to express this uh yeah

1935
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:28,159
yeah i do i i was gonna ask you about

1936
01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:29,279
the the title what

1937
01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:30,719
can you maybe speak a little bit about

1938
01:08:33,910 --> 01:08:32,080
the significance i know you just

1939
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:33,920
referenced it but uh maybe talk about

1940
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:34,960
the title a little bit

1941
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:36,480
because the full title is confessions of

1942
01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:38,880
an a of an alien contactee

1943
01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:40,960
dirty little secret could you maybe talk

1944
01:08:43,829 --> 01:08:42,159
a little bit about the significance of

1945
01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:43,839
that

1946
01:08:47,910 --> 01:08:46,880
yes absolutely um as as a contactee as

1947
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:47,920
an experiencer

1948
01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:49,679
this is something that has been shut

1949
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:51,440
people have been laughed at

1950
01:08:57,910 --> 01:08:55,279
called crazy i'm a clinical therapist

1951
01:08:59,510 --> 01:08:57,920
who wants to go see a crazy clinical

1952
01:09:01,990 --> 01:08:59,520
therapist

1953
01:09:02,789 --> 01:09:02,000
yeah it doesn't work that way and so and

1954
01:09:05,030 --> 01:09:02,799
so

1955
01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:05,040
knowing that i have these experiences

1956
01:09:09,910 --> 01:09:06,400
and and this is who

1957
01:09:12,149 --> 01:09:09,920
i am but having to present myself

1958
01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:12,159
in a completely different light on the

1959
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:13,120
daily

1960
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:20,470
i can't justify that you know i can't

1961
01:09:23,590 --> 01:09:22,080
and i got to a point

1962
01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:23,600
i think when i started writing the book

1963
01:09:25,990 --> 01:09:25,440
that i can no longer do this i cannot

1964
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:26,000
have

1965
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:29,600
this split life this mask that there's a

1966
01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:31,279
whole chapter about the masks that you

1967
01:09:34,550 --> 01:09:31,679
wear

1968
01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:34,560
yeah and i can't do it anymore and and

1969
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:36,400
so i'm like right i'm gonna have to just

1970
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:37,600
i'm gonna have to spill the beans i'm

1971
01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:38,719
gonna have to tell this

1972
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:41,600
dirty little secret and see what happens

1973
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:42,000
and

1974
01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:44,560
was i afraid i was gonna lose my job yes

1975
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:46,400
i was

1976
01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:48,960
but i couldn't i just had to do it i'm

1977
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:49,839
so glad you did

1978
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:52,880
because i mean man it's

1979
01:09:57,189 --> 01:09:55,840
uh yeah there's so much to unpack i mean

1980
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:57,199
joe uh you

1981
01:10:00,830 --> 01:09:59,520
you're like you get onto one subject

1982
01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:00,840
there's so much

1983
01:10:05,270 --> 01:10:04,400
uh yeah it's and it definitely helps

1984
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:05,280
people too

1985
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:08,560
you know uh you know we've

1986
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:11,440
we've been we've been kind of you know

1987
01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:11,760
just

1988
01:10:14,950 --> 01:10:13,840
listening to these stories and listening

1989
01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:14,960
to people talk

1990
01:10:18,310 --> 01:10:16,880
it seems like you know you even mention

1991
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:18,320
it in your book you know

1992
01:10:22,229 --> 01:10:20,000
a lot of these people even if they don't

1993
01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:22,239
want to be recorded or they don't you

1994
01:10:24,709 --> 01:10:22,719
know

1995
01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:24,719
they're like i don't want to use my name

1996
01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:26,000
it just it helps

1997
01:10:30,630 --> 01:10:28,880
so much to just get it off their chest

1998
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,640
you know like they just

1999
01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:32,560
they don't want to talk about it but you

2000
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:34,480
know there's an occasion where maybe

2001
01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:36,320
they do talk about it and it just makes

2002
01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:37,679
them feel good

2003
01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:40,960
um just to have that opportunity and and

2004
01:10:45,350 --> 01:10:42,080
just to have somebody

2005
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:45,360
listen who doesn't think you're a wacko

2006
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:48,640
yeah right and absolutely and the tide

2007
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:49,360
is definitely

2008
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:51,440
starting to change i can definitely see

2009
01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:52,880
it i mean

2010
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:55,120
i've i've got you know i've got friends

2011
01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:57,040
who never even thought about an alien

2012
01:11:01,510 --> 01:10:59,280
before that have you know

2013
01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:01,520
posted stuff on their page recently or

2014
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,880
you know reached out to me

2015
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:04,560
and been like hey have you seen this and

2016
01:11:07,830 --> 01:11:06,080
it's like oh yeah

2017
01:11:09,189 --> 01:11:07,840
yeah i've seen that that's really cool

2018
01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:09,199
you know it's just i

2019
01:11:13,189 --> 01:11:11,360
i definitely feel like you know the the

2020
01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:13,199
page is definitely turning a little bit

2021
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:14,960
for that and it's really good that more

2022
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:17,040
and more people are starting to

2023
01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:18,960
kind of come out and tell their their

2024
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:20,800
their stories because

2025
01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:23,440
you know it's like how can we expect you

2026
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:24,159
know

2027
01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:26,480
a disclosure from like a major

2028
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:28,400
government or something you know like

2029
01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:30,080
high-end like that when

2030
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:32,320
you know it's really it has nothing to

2031
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:33,120
do with them

2032
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:36,239
it's it's all the experiences themselves

2033
01:11:40,630 --> 01:11:38,960
you know that have the stories that's

2034
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:40,640
where you're going to get the disclosure

2035
01:11:43,189 --> 01:11:41,840
that's where you're going to get the

2036
01:11:44,470 --> 01:11:43,199
help that's where you're going to get

2037
01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:44,480
the information

2038
01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:46,000
it's from the people who are

2039
01:11:51,830 --> 01:11:48,480
experiencing it not from your government

2040
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:51,840
not from people like me and ben who have

2041
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:53,600
never you know well not that we know of

2042
01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:54,400
we don't know

2043
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:56,880
not that we know of but you know we're

2044
01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:58,400
getting it from people like you

2045
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:01,440
and that's what's so important

2046
01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:04,000
absolutely and it is at this point in my

2047
01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:04,640
life

2048
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:06,320
and i think the book was part of it it

2049
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:08,320
is a drive um

2050
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:10,800
and i'm going to say that i'm probably

2051
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:13,520
not behind the drive i'm sure it is them

2052
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:16,400
um you have you have to get out you have

2053
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:17,760
to talk you have to keep

2054
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:21,120
pushing this i mean i'm exhausted i work

2055
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:22,800
all day and then i do radio shows at

2056
01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:24,880
night and then it's like okay so when do

2057
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:25,360
i

2058
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:28,320
actually get but um that's okay whatever

2059
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:30,000
i need to do this

2060
01:12:34,630 --> 01:12:32,159
because it's so incredibly important

2061
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:34,640
right people who have these experiences

2062
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:36,560
need to know that they have support they

2063
01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:37,920
need to know that they're not crazy and

2064
01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:39,520
they need to know especially that they

2065
01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:40,800
are not alone

2066
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:42,960
right and if i could be one of those

2067
01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:44,960
voices that get out there and say hey

2068
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:47,679
you're not alone and if you need to get

2069
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:49,120
a hold of me because it's okay

2070
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:53,120
you know and and i absolutely

2071
01:12:57,910 --> 01:12:56,239
feel the drive to do that i love it it's

2072
01:12:58,709 --> 01:12:57,920
and you're such an easy person to talk

2073
01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:58,719
to you as well

2074
01:13:02,950 --> 01:13:01,199
um i'm just glad for that because you

2075
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:02,960
know you never know

2076
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:04,800
with as much stuff as that has happened

2077
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:07,280
to you and the way that you've been able

2078
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:07,760
to

2079
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:10,640
kind of overcome it and and digest it in

2080
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:11,760
the way that you have is

2081
01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:14,800
is uh very respectable you know

2082
01:13:20,229 --> 01:13:18,320
i just uh i i as someone that

2083
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:20,239
i myself i don't know if i've had any

2084
01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:21,760
any experiences like that maybe i'll

2085
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:23,920
find out in a couple years but

2086
01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:26,960
uh i mean to come to know that it you

2087
01:13:28,790 --> 01:13:27,360
can

2088
01:13:31,030 --> 01:13:28,800
go through this stuff and come out on

2089
01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:31,040
the other end totally fine and

2090
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:32,480
like hey you know just we're all just

2091
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:34,719
trying to figure it out and um

2092
01:13:38,709 --> 01:13:37,120
yeah it's it's it's refreshing and it's

2093
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:38,719
it's it's awesome so it's

2094
01:13:41,910 --> 01:13:41,280
yeah it's great to i just thank you so

2095
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:41,920
much for

2096
01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:43,440
you know coming on the show i know it

2097
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:44,960
took a while

2098
01:13:48,950 --> 01:13:47,040
to to to set all this stuff up we're a

2099
01:13:49,669 --> 01:13:48,960
little disorganized it's just me and joe

2100
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:49,679
you know

2101
01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:52,960
this show right

2102
01:13:58,229 --> 01:13:55,360
but okay in the off time trying to get

2103
01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:00,790
yeah i know i mean yeah i'm super stoked

2104
01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:02,400
that you you reached out to us too

2105
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:04,560
i i had i had another little question

2106
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:06,400
for you um

2107
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:09,600
did i i've read through so many books

2108
01:14:13,430 --> 01:14:10,960
this past month

2109
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:13,440
that i kind of mix stuff up you did you

2110
01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:15,360
mention on my labs experience

2111
01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:18,960
in here i did but you know what honestly

2112
01:14:21,669 --> 01:14:20,960
i didn't know what my lab was until the

2113
01:14:25,270 --> 01:14:21,679
other day

2114
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:25,280
okay okay so did you know the term

2115
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:27,520
no i did not know the term i did not

2116
01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:29,760
know the term until i did a leak project

2117
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:32,320
um interview and then he posted it and

2118
01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:33,600
sent me the link and i was like what's

2119
01:14:36,870 --> 01:14:34,159
my lab

2120
01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:36,880
awesome awesome so i had to look it up i

2121
01:14:39,990 --> 01:14:38,560
was like son of a gun so this really is

2122
01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:40,000
a thing

2123
01:14:46,070 --> 01:14:42,320
yeah do you think you've had any any

2124
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:48,550
from what i understand that my lab is

2125
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:49,920
military involvement correct

2126
01:14:54,950 --> 01:14:53,280
right yes right yes i have yes i have

2127
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:54,960
and when i said you know there's the

2128
01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:56,880
the really scary horrible awful things

2129
01:15:01,669 --> 01:14:58,880
that have happened to me

2130
01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:01,679
those are the ones i mean that's that's

2131
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:03,360
what i wanted to get to right there

2132
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:05,199
that's exactly what i wanted to get to i

2133
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:06,880
was going to ask you was

2134
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:08,400
do you feel like there was a difference

2135
01:15:13,110 --> 01:15:10,000
in your my lab experience your

2136
01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:13,120
actual et experience and most people

2137
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:15,440
with these these my lab experiences man

2138
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:16,080
i mean they

2139
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:20,239
they seem horrible they seem terrible

2140
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:23,760
they are awful they and i you know

2141
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:26,640
as i sat and thought about like why why

2142
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:29,040
were these things so different

2143
01:15:32,390 --> 01:15:30,560
number one there were humans involved i

2144
01:15:34,229 --> 01:15:32,400
saw humans or at least

2145
01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:34,239
human-looking hybrids i don't know but

2146
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:35,840
they look like us

2147
01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:39,120
and i was very upset but why

2148
01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:40,880
why is there a difference in what what

2149
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:42,239
was the agenda there

2150
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:45,840
in the the military type experience that

2151
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:46,960
i had

2152
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:49,520
i was being induced labor with one of

2153
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:51,600
those hybrid babies and now i'm sitting

2154
01:15:55,350 --> 01:15:52,080
back and

2155
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:55,360
speculating that they knew that i was

2156
01:15:58,470 --> 01:15:56,400
carrying

2157
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:58,480
one of these hybrid hybrid babies and

2158
01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:00,400
they took it

2159
01:16:05,830 --> 01:16:03,840
whoa yeah took it we don't know why

2160
01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:05,840
and we don't know what those hybrid

2161
01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:07,280
babies are being used for

2162
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:10,080
right what guarantee they are not being

2163
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:11,760
taken care of the way they are on the

2164
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:12,640
ships

2165
01:16:18,229 --> 01:16:15,920
oh yes yes that was another important

2166
01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:18,239
part i wanted to kind of get to is

2167
01:16:24,870 --> 01:16:22,800
it seems like a lot of the you know

2168
01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:24,880
the cleaner work seems to be with the

2169
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:27,199
ets the the dirtier work

2170
01:16:34,790 --> 01:16:30,400
seems to be with this like human and

2171
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:34,800
et mixed military agenda

2172
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:38,000
that doesn't soprano like the scars the

2173
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:40,960
the you know and the the holes in your

2174
01:16:43,430 --> 01:16:41,520
body

2175
01:16:45,430 --> 01:16:43,440
and stuff like that it seems to be like

2176
01:16:47,270 --> 01:16:45,440
really messy kind of work like something

2177
01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:47,280
a human would do

2178
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:49,840
and the the et stuff i mean you can't

2179
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:50,960
find scars

2180
01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:52,640
you know a lot of times you'll just have

2181
01:16:57,669 --> 01:16:54,480
like maybe a bruise or like

2182
01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:57,679
a rash or something but you know

2183
01:17:01,270 --> 01:17:00,560
and it fades yeah yeah yeah and it's

2184
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:01,280
just

2185
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:03,920
it's it seems to be completely different

2186
01:17:07,990 --> 01:17:04,640
and

2187
01:17:10,790 --> 01:17:08,000
this this my labs thing is just

2188
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:10,800
it's on a whole nother level on like

2189
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:11,760
it's almost like

2190
01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:14,480
its own you know we're trying to figure

2191
01:17:17,910 --> 01:17:16,400
out what's going on with the ets and now

2192
01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:17,920
we have to worry about like our

2193
01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:19,280
own people yeah because they're trying

2194
01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:21,280
to figure it out too doing it to us

2195
01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:22,719
exactly and that's exactly what i was

2196
01:17:26,070 --> 01:17:24,400
about to say they are really interested

2197
01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:26,080
in what the et's are doing too and they

2198
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:26,880
know

2199
01:17:37,669 --> 01:17:35,280
they knew that they could induce

2200
01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:37,679
and and you know that was extremely

2201
01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:39,760
painful of course labor hurts

2202
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:43,440
yeah but i've never remembered any pain

2203
01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:46,640
of labor on a ship environment

2204
01:17:49,990 --> 01:17:49,040
oh wow but you do you did experience

2205
01:17:54,149 --> 01:17:50,000
pain

2206
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:54,159
sorry yes oh my god with the with the

2207
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:58,080
milk mill labs yeah so oh man that

2208
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:59,280
doesn't surprise me

2209
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:01,199
i don't know why but it's just maybe

2210
01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:03,040
it's the nihilism in me but like

2211
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:06,320
man leave it up to humans to

2212
01:18:09,430 --> 01:18:08,880
kind of ruin a good thing a good thing

2213
01:18:12,709 --> 01:18:09,440
and like

2214
01:18:13,510 --> 01:18:12,719
take advantage of of uh maybe possibly

2215
01:18:15,030 --> 01:18:13,520
something that we

2216
01:18:17,189 --> 01:18:15,040
we don't fully understand yet and

2217
01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:17,199
they're just like wow we want to know

2218
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:18,960
too

2219
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:21,440
and they end up just hurting people um i

2220
01:18:25,189 --> 01:18:23,040
mean we had a great discussion

2221
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:25,199
with uh with melinda about that on how

2222
01:18:29,110 --> 01:18:26,880
you know like

2223
01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:29,120
yeah they may be working together but

2224
01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:31,520
you know these military people

2225
01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:34,159
they don't have what the et's are

2226
01:18:37,830 --> 01:18:35,040
interested in

2227
01:18:39,750 --> 01:18:37,840
in the first place so the reason that

2228
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:39,760
they can't just ask these et's hey

2229
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:40,960
what's going on what

2230
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:43,440
what are you doing is because they need

2231
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:45,280
the contact d

2232
01:18:48,709 --> 01:18:47,440
the contact e is the key to this whole

2233
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:48,719
thing

2234
01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:50,880
and so not only does the military want

2235
01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:53,199
to know what the ets are doing

2236
01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:55,120
but the military wants to know why

2237
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:56,640
certain people

2238
01:19:00,550 --> 01:18:59,520
the contactees are so important to the

2239
01:19:01,990 --> 01:19:00,560
et's

2240
01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:02,000
yeah because they just don't have the

2241
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:05,520
stuff and the contact he does

2242
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:09,280
and it pisses them off

2243
01:19:12,870 --> 01:19:11,120
this is a moss so much they don't care

2244
01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:12,880
they don't care if you're hurting they

2245
01:19:17,030 --> 01:19:13,360
don't

2246
01:19:19,270 --> 01:19:17,040
and that was

2247
01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:19,280
that's what i came out of with the

2248
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:20,480
experience that

2249
01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:22,640
i put into the book which was um you

2250
01:19:26,149 --> 01:19:24,719
know giving birth and it just being

2251
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:26,159
excruciating and

2252
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:28,800
there was a man in a military uniform

2253
01:19:33,750 --> 01:19:29,840
with uh

2254
01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:33,760
like like uh fatigues and he had on like

2255
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:34,960
a lab coat and

2256
01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:38,080
carrying a carrying a clipboard and he

2257
01:19:40,870 --> 01:19:39,600
was scanning the room and there were

2258
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:40,880
hundreds of us women

2259
01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:43,440
in these cots they weren't even they

2260
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:44,640
didn't even look sterile

2261
01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:48,239
um wow you said cots

2262
01:19:51,910 --> 01:19:50,880
yeah they were like military cots it was

2263
01:19:53,669 --> 01:19:51,920
not

2264
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:53,679
hospital beds and this certainly wasn't

2265
01:19:58,390 --> 01:19:55,120
a surgical table

2266
01:20:00,950 --> 01:19:58,400
um and that's different from the ship

2267
01:20:02,870 --> 01:20:00,960
which seems to be a little more sterile

2268
01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:02,880
and

2269
01:20:08,229 --> 01:20:06,239
better i guess well

2270
01:20:09,350 --> 01:20:08,239
i don't i don't remember pain i don't

2271
01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:09,360
remember hurting

2272
01:20:13,510 --> 01:20:11,920
i remember like passing out coming to

2273
01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:13,520
and having a baby in my hands that's

2274
01:20:17,830 --> 01:20:13,920
what

2275
01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:17,840
i remember on on the ship uh

2276
01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:20,080
man but that that military guy was

2277
01:20:23,750 --> 01:20:21,840
surveying the room and i

2278
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:23,760
was trying to yell at him like hey can

2279
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:25,760
you help or whatever you know kind of

2280
01:20:29,110 --> 01:20:27,280
like sideways glance and just looked

2281
01:20:32,709 --> 01:20:29,120
away really quick like

2282
01:20:35,189 --> 01:20:32,719
oh god you know it and and that

2283
01:20:35,990 --> 01:20:35,199
that that feeling that i had when he

2284
01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:36,000
just

2285
01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:37,760
glanced over me and glassed away like i

2286
01:20:48,550 --> 01:20:44,550
that has never left me i can't even

2287
01:20:50,709 --> 01:20:48,560
imagine and the thought of like

2288
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:50,719
if you think about it if this happens on

2289
01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:52,080
any given night

2290
01:20:58,229 --> 01:20:55,120
women that have been taken

2291
01:20:58,550 --> 01:20:58,239
yeah you know just randomly yeah and if

2292
01:21:02,390 --> 01:20:58,560
you

2293
01:21:05,030 --> 01:21:02,400
days in a year

2294
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:05,040
that's hundreds of thousands of women

2295
01:21:10,229 --> 01:21:06,639
every single year

2296
01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:10,239
and we hear you know

2297
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:12,800
50 stories that we could probably like

2298
01:21:16,629 --> 01:21:13,360
point to

2299
01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:16,639
right now but that's thousands hundreds

2300
01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:18,000
and thousands of women

2301
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:20,239
and and men that this is happening to

2302
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:21,120
yeah

2303
01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:24,239
right wow the uh

2304
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:26,080
i just want to speak to the the the

2305
01:21:30,149 --> 01:21:27,360
intricacy of your

2306
01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:30,159
your recounting of that uh the the

2307
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:31,199
subtleties

2308
01:21:38,229 --> 01:21:35,120
um it doesn't it doesn't sound

2309
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:38,239
what i'm trying to say is like i i

2310
01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:39,280
believe you

2311
01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:43,520
100 like just the way that you describe

2312
01:21:47,350 --> 01:21:45,360
that it's like

2313
01:21:49,110 --> 01:21:47,360
i mean how do you how do you make

2314
01:21:49,990 --> 01:21:49,120
something like that up like that's very

2315
01:21:51,990 --> 01:21:50,000
specific

2316
01:21:53,750 --> 01:21:52,000
right you know and and i'm only saying

2317
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:53,760
this being like devil's advocate right

2318
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:56,320
like sometimes on the show i try to

2319
01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:59,440
try to try to put myself in a uh

2320
01:22:02,550 --> 01:22:01,040
another person's kind of critical

2321
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:02,560
thinking mind but

2322
01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:05,760
also another uh uh detail

2323
01:22:10,149 --> 01:22:08,239
that you mentioned shortly and please

2324
01:22:13,189 --> 01:22:10,159
speak to it if you can um

2325
01:22:15,189 --> 01:22:13,199
but the you said you you woke up

2326
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:15,199
woke up with a baby in your arms that

2327
01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:16,400
sounds to me like

2328
01:22:21,350 --> 01:22:18,400
like the sweetest thing ever like the

2329
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:21,360
the aliens let you hold your baby

2330
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:23,760
absolutely and that's crucial we have to

2331
01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:25,840
hold the babies we have to bond with the

2332
01:22:29,590 --> 01:22:27,120
babies we have to

2333
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:29,600
love on them and you know feed them and

2334
01:22:32,229 --> 01:22:30,239
change them

2335
01:22:33,590 --> 01:22:32,239
and just do the bonding that we can when

2336
01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:33,600
we're with them because

2337
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:36,400
apparently that's extremely important

2338
01:22:40,629 --> 01:22:37,679
and yeah

2339
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:40,639
i've had several of these babies and

2340
01:22:45,189 --> 01:22:41,760
many of them are

2341
01:22:47,830 --> 01:22:45,199
absolutely tiny like thumb size

2342
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:47,840
and of course if they're taking it i

2343
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:48,639
we're

2344
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:52,400
places in my body has told me it's about

2345
01:22:55,830 --> 01:22:54,239
three months gestation

2346
01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:55,840
um you know before you even look

2347
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:57,679
pregnant before you know anything

2348
01:23:00,870 --> 01:22:59,120
can happen they're taking these babies

2349
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:00,880
so they're absolutely tiny

2350
01:23:05,430 --> 01:23:03,760
um and i've had some very bizarre dreams

2351
01:23:07,270 --> 01:23:05,440
with these itty-bitty little babies in

2352
01:23:07,830 --> 01:23:07,280
like how do i put on a diaper on that

2353
01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:07,840
thing

2354
01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:10,560
but um yeah you just coo and you play

2355
01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:12,000
and and you love them and

2356
01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:16,320
uh the last one of these

2357
01:23:20,070 --> 01:23:18,239
experiences that i had was just a couple

2358
01:23:22,390 --> 01:23:20,080
months ago and i i

2359
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:22,400
named the i often named these babies and

2360
01:23:26,149 --> 01:23:23,760
this one was chandra

2361
01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:26,159
her name is chandra and i remember

2362
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:27,920
distinctly introducing her to

2363
01:23:33,750 --> 01:23:30,960
five other children wow

2364
01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:33,760
wow yeah and everybody's smiling and

2365
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:34,000
being

2366
01:23:37,189 --> 01:23:35,520
happy and we're just like a little happy

2367
01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:37,199
family and then i woke up so

2368
01:23:43,990 --> 01:23:40,880
oh man damn what sounds like

2369
01:23:44,790 --> 01:23:44,000
even though you know that it sounds like

2370
01:23:46,950 --> 01:23:44,800
they're trying

2371
01:23:48,950 --> 01:23:46,960
they as in who whoever is in charge of

2372
01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:48,960
this program they're they obviously know

2373
01:23:56,229 --> 01:23:49,520
that

2374
01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:56,239
we need the mother we we need touch

2375
01:24:01,990 --> 01:23:59,679
and uh you know care and stuff

2376
01:24:03,270 --> 01:24:02,000
you know that makes sense to me it seems

2377
01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:03,280
like they're trying even though they

2378
01:24:08,229 --> 01:24:05,360
might be doing something that

2379
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:08,239
we might see as evil uh i don't know

2380
01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:09,440
maybe

2381
01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:10,639
you could look at it so many different

2382
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:12,159
ways i mean if you talk to somebody that

2383
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:13,760
was hardcore christian they might see

2384
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:16,880
these entities as like like demons and

2385
01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:18,000
they're like harvesting

2386
01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:20,239
whatever like yeah i don't know to me

2387
01:24:24,790 --> 01:24:22,080
right now it sounds to me

2388
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:24,800
that your experience wasn't the worst it

2389
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:25,760
could have been

2390
01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:28,000
right it's definitely not uh it

2391
01:24:32,310 --> 01:24:30,480
definitely didn't have

2392
01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:32,320
well it's it seems to me at least that

2393
01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:34,560
there was no consent involved

2394
01:24:37,669 --> 01:24:36,239
right i'm not trying to take away yeah

2395
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:37,679
exactly it wasn't like something that

2396
01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:39,520
you were like oh yeah hell yeah let's go

2397
01:24:52,870 --> 01:24:40,080
do this

2398
01:24:56,390 --> 01:24:54,790
but no i mean like yeah it definitely

2399
01:24:58,390 --> 01:24:56,400
seems like in the

2400
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:58,400
given the two options between the my

2401
01:25:02,870 --> 01:24:59,520
labs option yeah

2402
01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:02,880
and the et option you would definitely

2403
01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:05,040
prefer the et option because it doesn't

2404
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:05,760
sound like the

2405
01:25:09,590 --> 01:25:08,800
the mylab option even lets you hold or

2406
01:25:12,149 --> 01:25:09,600
bond with

2407
01:25:13,910 --> 01:25:12,159
the the child right no there was there

2408
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:13,920
is no contact with the child after

2409
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:15,920
no and those are the ones that end up in

2410
01:25:19,990 --> 01:25:17,040
stranger things

2411
01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:20,000
right that's it's kind of a distinction

2412
01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:20,880
you know

2413
01:25:24,390 --> 01:25:22,880
there you go and that and there's your

2414
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:24,400
full circle yeah

2415
01:25:29,189 --> 01:25:27,040
yeah no i mean that's just that's that's

2416
01:25:31,590 --> 01:25:29,199
it that's just mind-blowing it blows it

2417
01:25:32,870 --> 01:25:31,600
absolutely blows my mind absolutely

2418
01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:32,880
blows my mind

2419
01:25:38,149 --> 01:25:35,440
um have you ever seen have you ever seen

2420
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:38,159
the documentary love and saucers

2421
01:25:42,310 --> 01:25:41,199
no i wish i could remember that man's

2422
01:25:45,430 --> 01:25:42,320
name right now

2423
01:25:48,709 --> 01:25:45,440
um he tells a story

2424
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:48,719
about he lost his virginity

2425
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:51,760
um to uh to an alien

2426
01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:55,199
and he uh david huggins that's it

2427
01:25:58,390 --> 01:25:57,360
and he actually like fell in love with

2428
01:26:01,590 --> 01:25:58,400
this this

2429
01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:01,600
uh this alien and had

2430
01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:04,400
a lot of babies and he didn't you know

2431
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:06,560
come to this realization until later in

2432
01:26:09,510 --> 01:26:07,520
his life

2433
01:26:10,790 --> 01:26:09,520
um but they started appearing to him

2434
01:26:13,030 --> 01:26:10,800
again and again

2435
01:26:14,629 --> 01:26:13,040
and and one evening he decided that he

2436
01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:14,639
was going to set up a vase

2437
01:26:18,550 --> 01:26:17,760
with some flowers and if she came to him

2438
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:18,560
again

2439
01:26:22,229 --> 01:26:20,320
that night that he would give them to

2440
01:26:24,470 --> 01:26:22,239
her and if they were gone the next day

2441
01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:24,480
then he knew that it was real well the

2442
01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:25,679
next day

2443
01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:28,560
they were completely gone and uh

2444
01:26:32,229 --> 01:26:29,600
apparently they had

2445
01:26:32,950 --> 01:26:32,239
they had taken him um kind of like you

2446
01:26:35,830 --> 01:26:32,960
he said

2447
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:35,840
uh i would go to sleep and i would be

2448
01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:36,480
able to

2449
01:26:43,270 --> 01:26:39,520
go to this place and

2450
01:26:45,030 --> 01:26:43,280
you know it's he wasn't technically

2451
01:26:47,110 --> 01:26:45,040
supposed to be there

2452
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:47,120
but it was almost like they were trying

2453
01:26:52,070 --> 01:26:49,360
to figure out how to help the babies

2454
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:52,080
and by him being there he was able to

2455
01:26:57,510 --> 01:26:52,960
help

2456
01:26:59,189 --> 01:26:57,520
which you know relates to your story and

2457
01:27:01,030 --> 01:26:59,199
so many other stories on how these

2458
01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:01,040
babies need

2459
01:27:04,470 --> 01:27:03,120
need that connection they need that

2460
01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:04,480
touch

2461
01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:06,560
and you know on the surface when you

2462
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:08,560
just see this if you know nothing about

2463
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:11,360
you know you know the the hybridization

2464
01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:13,360
program or abductees or anything if you

2465
01:27:17,189 --> 01:27:14,960
were to just watch this you would think

2466
01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:17,199
it was complete lunacy

2467
01:27:20,310 --> 01:27:19,760
but you know the more that we dive into

2468
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:20,320
this

2469
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:22,000
and we start to find out that you know

2470
01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:23,920
just like you said you know these babies

2471
01:27:28,629 --> 01:27:25,280
they need that touch

2472
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:28,639
and this man's story this man's story

2473
01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:32,400
it becomes a complete and total reality

2474
01:27:36,390 --> 01:27:35,120
you know because he's almost telling the

2475
01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:36,400
same story that

2476
01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:38,560
that the women are just on the opposite

2477
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:40,159
side

2478
01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:43,199
right that's amazing

2479
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:44,800
i'm gonna have to watch this it's called

2480
01:27:49,910 --> 01:27:46,960
love and saucers and he actually

2481
01:27:51,030 --> 01:27:49,920
um when he started recalling his

2482
01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:51,040
memories

2483
01:27:54,550 --> 01:27:53,120
he started painting pictures he's got

2484
01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:54,560
some some

2485
01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:56,719
pictures you know that he's painted of

2486
01:28:01,669 --> 01:27:59,520
the actual being that you know he's seen

2487
01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:01,679
he said that there was always you know a

2488
01:28:06,629 --> 01:28:04,159
man being in the room with them

2489
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:06,639
at all times he would always show up but

2490
01:28:10,790 --> 01:28:07,920
ever since he was a

2491
01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:10,800
a child he had these experiences and

2492
01:28:13,750 --> 01:28:12,719
didn't start to realize it until later

2493
01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:13,760
in his life

2494
01:28:17,350 --> 01:28:15,679
so yeah it's a it's a really interesting

2495
01:28:18,310 --> 01:28:17,360
documentary i would say i would say

2496
01:28:21,189 --> 01:28:18,320
definitely check it out

2497
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:21,199
it's it's definitely interesting but uh

2498
01:28:24,310 --> 01:28:21,600
yeah

2499
01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:24,320
have you have you ever seen a mantid uh

2500
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:26,320
alien before

2501
01:28:30,709 --> 01:28:29,840
aaron i suspect that i have i think that

2502
01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:30,719
may be

2503
01:28:36,310 --> 01:28:34,560
the being that inserted the um

2504
01:28:38,709 --> 01:28:36,320
the implant into the roof of my mouth

2505
01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:38,719
when i was seven however i was so afraid

2506
01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:40,719
of him

2507
01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:42,960
i don't recall what his face looked like

2508
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:44,800
i know that he was very very tall and

2509
01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:45,760
then

2510
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:48,400
very long arms and legs is he the one

2511
01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:49,600
that had the mandibles

2512
01:28:52,870 --> 01:28:52,000
like on his mouth yes yes there were

2513
01:28:55,030 --> 01:28:52,880
like moving

2514
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:55,040
mouth parts and i suspect that was

2515
01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:56,000
imagined but i don't

2516
01:28:59,910 --> 01:28:59,120
know for sure because i just cannot pull

2517
01:29:02,310 --> 01:28:59,920
that up in my

2518
01:29:02,950 --> 01:29:02,320
in my mind right yeah yeah that's not

2519
01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:02,960
still too

2520
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:05,360
terrified of it or like i say it's too

2521
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:07,280
alien

2522
01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:10,239
yeah definitely cannot fathom what what

2523
01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:12,239
it was that i was seeing and i believe

2524
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:13,600
that that was the moment

2525
01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:16,880
um where the ptsd started for me

2526
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:20,480
um however i did a show

2527
01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:23,440
a few when i was at sunday and it was a

2528
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:24,880
couple of therapists that were talking

2529
01:29:27,350 --> 01:29:25,840
to me

2530
01:29:28,709 --> 01:29:27,360
and they said you know if you were that

2531
01:29:30,310 --> 01:29:28,719
afraid of that being at that point in

2532
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:30,320
time then you probably encountered him

2533
01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:31,840
before

2534
01:29:36,390 --> 01:29:34,560
let's explore that let's let's pretend

2535
01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:36,400
that you met him before and my mind is

2536
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:37,520
shut down

2537
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:40,400
no we're not going there oh man no not

2538
01:29:43,830 --> 01:29:42,159
going there and so i thought oh crap

2539
01:29:45,910 --> 01:29:43,840
they could be on to something here

2540
01:29:47,189 --> 01:29:45,920
yeah definitely it's almost like yeah

2541
01:29:49,750 --> 01:29:47,199
that innate

2542
01:29:50,310 --> 01:29:49,760
fear of snakes for a lot of people it's

2543
01:29:52,629 --> 01:29:50,320
like

2544
01:29:53,750 --> 01:29:52,639
when they're kids they were uh very

2545
01:29:56,149 --> 01:29:53,760
afraid of snakes and

2546
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:56,159
it's just like epigenetics i wonder if

2547
01:29:58,470 --> 01:29:56,960
that's something yeah

2548
01:30:00,470 --> 01:29:58,480
let's just do it pass down through

2549
01:30:01,510 --> 01:30:00,480
generation be scared of snakes because

2550
01:30:01,830 --> 01:30:01,520
you don't know what they're gonna do to

2551
01:30:04,870 --> 01:30:01,840
you

2552
01:30:08,149 --> 01:30:04,880
yeah yeah oh that's very interesting

2553
01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:08,159
and that uh is that the implant that was

2554
01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:08,560
the

2555
01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:12,480
your mouth

2556
01:30:15,910 --> 01:30:15,199
yes yeah that was super interesting to

2557
01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:15,920
me because

2558
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:18,960
uh i've heard things

2559
01:30:22,629 --> 01:30:21,760
about how the ets have started to switch

2560
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:22,639
from these like

2561
01:30:28,310 --> 01:30:25,920
metal kind of rockish implants into a

2562
01:30:31,110 --> 01:30:28,320
more biological implant because we

2563
01:30:32,310 --> 01:30:31,120
figured out how to detect and spot their

2564
01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:32,320
implants

2565
01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:33,840
and i found that to be pretty

2566
01:30:37,270 --> 01:30:35,440
interesting that you know

2567
01:30:39,669 --> 01:30:37,280
that's that's the first case that i've

2568
01:30:40,550 --> 01:30:39,679
heard of of like a more biological type

2569
01:30:43,669 --> 01:30:40,560
of thing

2570
01:30:45,430 --> 01:30:43,679
being implanted into a person

2571
01:30:46,790 --> 01:30:45,440
right and i didn't you know is it just

2572
01:30:50,470 --> 01:30:46,800
like an encasing

2573
01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:50,480
is that it is it nanotechnology what

2574
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:52,320
what was it was it so that my body

2575
01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:54,480
wouldn't reject it i don't know

2576
01:30:57,669 --> 01:30:57,040
wasn't my own dna made in a petri dish

2577
01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:57,679
that was

2578
01:31:02,070 --> 01:30:59,840
coated in a certain way i don't know i i

2579
01:31:04,390 --> 01:31:02,080
want to know more so how did you

2580
01:31:06,229 --> 01:31:04,400
come to realize that you had this this

2581
01:31:08,390 --> 01:31:06,239
implant

2582
01:31:09,830 --> 01:31:08,400
that was through regression i had

2583
01:31:11,750 --> 01:31:09,840
hypnotic regression that was the first

2584
01:31:12,310 --> 01:31:11,760
hypnotic regression i had i've only done

2585
01:31:15,189 --> 01:31:12,320
two

2586
01:31:16,310 --> 01:31:15,199
with yvonne smith right smith yeah and i

2587
01:31:18,550 --> 01:31:16,320
was here in

2588
01:31:19,510 --> 01:31:18,560
roswell when she came for the ufo

2589
01:31:21,350 --> 01:31:19,520
festival

2590
01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:21,360
um i've gotten to know her because of

2591
01:31:24,390 --> 01:31:22,560
that and

2592
01:31:25,669 --> 01:31:24,400
it took me a few years but i finally

2593
01:31:28,229 --> 01:31:25,679
said all right let's do it and

2594
01:31:28,950 --> 01:31:28,239
uh and i did a session with her and that

2595
01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:28,960
experience

2596
01:31:33,430 --> 01:31:30,400
there when i was seven is what came

2597
01:31:34,709 --> 01:31:33,440
forward and you said you've never really

2598
01:31:36,709 --> 01:31:34,719
looked into it further

2599
01:31:38,950 --> 01:31:36,719
like going to the dentist and stuff like

2600
01:31:40,550 --> 01:31:38,960
that you've never had it checked out or

2601
01:31:42,550 --> 01:31:40,560
thought about removing it or anything

2602
01:31:45,030 --> 01:31:42,560
right oh you think i don't want to go to

2603
01:31:47,510 --> 01:31:45,040
the dentist

2604
01:31:49,270 --> 01:31:47,520
because it reminds me of that moment

2605
01:31:52,709 --> 01:31:49,280
because i was in a dentist like chair

2606
01:31:53,350 --> 01:31:52,719
and i hate the dentist and i need to go

2607
01:31:56,390 --> 01:31:53,360
but i

2608
01:31:59,110 --> 01:31:56,400
i'm not gonna i'm not a man

2609
01:32:00,149 --> 01:31:59,120
oh my i understand that that was kind of

2610
01:32:02,709 --> 01:32:00,159
the same way with me

2611
01:32:04,950 --> 01:32:02,719
uh when i was when i was little i didn't

2612
01:32:05,830 --> 01:32:04,960
like going to the the eye doctor i wear

2613
01:32:07,430 --> 01:32:05,840
glasses

2614
01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:07,440
when they would shine that light in my

2615
01:32:09,590 --> 01:32:09,120
eye all i could think about was that

2616
01:32:11,189 --> 01:32:09,600
part

2617
01:32:12,950 --> 01:32:11,199
and uh fire in the sky with travis

2618
01:32:15,590 --> 01:32:12,960
walton where

2619
01:32:17,430 --> 01:32:15,600
they put the the thing in his eye and

2620
01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:17,440
then come to find out later on that that

2621
01:32:21,510 --> 01:32:18,960
was you know embellished and

2622
01:32:22,629 --> 01:32:21,520
like wasn't really true um you know

2623
01:32:25,669 --> 01:32:22,639
coming from travis

2624
01:32:27,990 --> 01:32:25,679
um but yeah it was always a thing like

2625
01:32:30,070 --> 01:32:28,000
you can make that association with the

2626
01:32:32,629 --> 01:32:30,080
dentist or the eye doctor or like your

2627
01:32:34,790 --> 01:32:32,639
regular doctor or your gynecologist or

2628
01:32:36,390 --> 01:32:34,800
or whoever it is that you know you have

2629
01:32:38,830 --> 01:32:36,400
to come across

2630
01:32:40,550 --> 01:32:38,840
you know somebody with with these

2631
01:32:43,030 --> 01:32:40,560
experiences with your body yeah it's

2632
01:32:45,750 --> 01:32:43,040
it's easy to see how that ptsd

2633
01:32:46,229 --> 01:32:45,760
could really start to come up uh in

2634
01:32:50,550 --> 01:32:46,239
these

2635
01:32:53,750 --> 01:32:50,560
be otherwise normal

2636
01:32:55,990 --> 01:32:53,760
you know interactions right oh yeah i

2637
01:32:57,110 --> 01:32:56,000
have i have a very hard time going to

2638
01:32:59,110 --> 01:32:57,120
the doctor i

2639
01:33:00,629 --> 01:32:59,120
i feel sorry for all of my doctors

2640
01:33:01,750 --> 01:33:00,639
because i have to explain to them listen

2641
01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:01,760
i don't trust you

2642
01:33:05,590 --> 01:33:03,360
and i'm not going to trust you and i'm

2643
01:33:09,189 --> 01:33:05,600
really sorry

2644
01:33:12,149 --> 01:33:10,629
you know as soon as they take my blood

2645
01:33:13,350 --> 01:33:12,159
pressure like are you okay i'm like no

2646
01:33:17,189 --> 01:33:13,360
i'm freaking out

2647
01:33:22,550 --> 01:33:20,790
like i gotta go yeah damn seriously

2648
01:33:24,629 --> 01:33:22,560
yeah um i've never i've never thought

2649
01:33:27,910 --> 01:33:24,639
about that yeah so like

2650
01:33:29,110 --> 01:33:27,920
abductees experiencers visiting the

2651
01:33:32,390 --> 01:33:29,120
doctor

2652
01:33:33,590 --> 01:33:32,400
the most you know some i guess to most

2653
01:33:34,629 --> 01:33:33,600
people that haven't experienced

2654
01:33:38,149 --> 01:33:34,639
something like that

2655
01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:38,159
wouldn't seem you know too stressful but

2656
01:33:42,070 --> 01:33:40,480
yeah that makes sense why it would cause

2657
01:33:45,830 --> 01:33:42,080
a lot of

2658
01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:45,840
these

2659
01:33:53,350 --> 01:33:49,360
buried down in your

2660
01:33:56,629 --> 01:33:53,360
your mind i wonder absolutely i mean

2661
01:33:58,070 --> 01:33:56,639
that and that's there is ptsd for you

2662
01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:58,080
your mind may have covered it up but

2663
01:34:04,149 --> 01:34:00,719
your body remembers

2664
01:34:07,270 --> 01:34:04,159
wow yeah it's like

2665
01:34:10,550 --> 01:34:07,280
oh man yeah it's it's such a uh a

2666
01:34:12,870 --> 01:34:10,560
a mind melting thing it almost

2667
01:34:14,709 --> 01:34:12,880
it it kind of makes me think of the

2668
01:34:15,750 --> 01:34:14,719
reason uh what you told the story

2669
01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:15,760
earlier aaron

2670
01:34:21,910 --> 01:34:19,280
about the grays entering your room

2671
01:34:22,629 --> 01:34:21,920
and you had this moment of you euphoria

2672
01:34:26,149 --> 01:34:22,639
that you've

2673
01:34:29,510 --> 01:34:26,159
never since been able to achieve uh

2674
01:34:32,149 --> 01:34:29,520
it almost makes me think like the reason

2675
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:32,159
that you have or or most experiencers

2676
01:34:35,350 --> 01:34:32,800
have these

2677
01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:35,360
these moments of freaking out because

2678
01:34:37,669 --> 01:34:37,199
hey yeah last time somebody messed with

2679
01:34:40,310 --> 01:34:37,679
my body

2680
01:34:41,189 --> 01:34:40,320
you know it was an alien it's like they

2681
01:34:43,030 --> 01:34:41,199
know

2682
01:34:44,550 --> 01:34:43,040
that you've been through this traumatic

2683
01:34:47,270 --> 01:34:44,560
experience so they

2684
01:34:47,669 --> 01:34:47,280
give off some kind of frequency or or

2685
01:34:51,189 --> 01:34:47,679
some

2686
01:34:53,030 --> 01:34:51,199
know how they would do it but

2687
01:34:56,310 --> 01:34:53,040
you know they try to calm you down as

2688
01:34:57,910 --> 01:34:56,320
much as possible it's like laughing guys

2689
01:35:00,709 --> 01:34:57,920
i never thought about that i thought

2690
01:35:03,030 --> 01:35:00,719
they were just really nice people

2691
01:35:05,590 --> 01:35:03,040
yeah oh my gosh did i just ruin like

2692
01:35:10,070 --> 01:35:07,990
they do it with mind bullets they're

2693
01:35:12,709 --> 01:35:10,080
mine bullets

2694
01:35:13,669 --> 01:35:12,719
but so the only reason i say maybe

2695
01:35:15,750 --> 01:35:13,679
that's i

2696
01:35:17,669 --> 01:35:15,760
i could totally be so wrong because who

2697
01:35:18,390 --> 01:35:17,679
knows right but the only reason i'm very

2698
01:35:20,470 --> 01:35:18,400
well

2699
01:35:21,510 --> 01:35:20,480
yeah it could be but i could be wrong

2700
01:35:23,109 --> 01:35:21,520
the only only

2701
01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:23,119
connection i'm thinking about is of

2702
01:35:28,390 --> 01:35:25,840
stories that i've heard of reptilian

2703
01:35:30,070 --> 01:35:28,400
uh extraterrestrials giving off a vibe

2704
01:35:31,910 --> 01:35:30,080
like a very negative vibe

2705
01:35:33,910 --> 01:35:31,920
and they do it on purpose to make to to

2706
01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:33,920
intimidate you

2707
01:35:37,350 --> 01:35:35,440
um i don't know if you've ever ever

2708
01:35:40,709 --> 01:35:37,360
heard of of that

2709
01:35:41,750 --> 01:35:40,719
but uh yeah i haven't you know a lot of

2710
01:35:43,350 --> 01:35:41,760
attention to

2711
01:35:45,430 --> 01:35:43,360
reptilian information just because i

2712
01:35:46,550 --> 01:35:45,440
haven't had any experiences that i can

2713
01:35:49,189 --> 01:35:46,560
recall

2714
01:35:49,750 --> 01:35:49,199
uh with them so i don't i don't know

2715
01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:49,760
yeah

2716
01:35:59,189 --> 01:35:56,960
you know i know it's very like scattered

2717
01:36:01,510 --> 01:35:59,199
uh recollection and just trying to piece

2718
01:36:05,189 --> 01:36:01,520
all this together but do you have any

2719
01:36:07,910 --> 01:36:05,199
uh like sensory

2720
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:07,920
recollection like do you remember smells

2721
01:36:12,070 --> 01:36:08,880
or like

2722
01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:12,080
the way things felt you know or

2723
01:36:18,870 --> 01:36:15,760
or you know this sense of the

2724
01:36:20,070 --> 01:36:18,880
the the occasion you know you know what

2725
01:36:23,109 --> 01:36:20,080
i'm saying like you remember

2726
01:36:26,870 --> 01:36:23,119
oh yeah yeah oh yeah i i have several

2727
01:36:29,590 --> 01:36:26,880
memories of um different things like the

2728
01:36:30,790 --> 01:36:29,600
the smell itself is a bit um i have a

2729
01:36:33,510 --> 01:36:30,800
memory of very

2730
01:36:33,910 --> 01:36:33,520
earthy like if you were just to dig your

2731
01:36:36,310 --> 01:36:33,920
hand

2732
01:36:37,350 --> 01:36:36,320
in the dirt and pick it up and smell it

2733
01:36:40,709 --> 01:36:37,360
nice sort of

2734
01:36:42,310 --> 01:36:40,719
smell i not necessarily pleasant but not

2735
01:36:43,510 --> 01:36:42,320
unpleasant at the same time

2736
01:36:46,470 --> 01:36:43,520
kind of like when you turn your air

2737
01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:46,480
condition on for the first time

2738
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:49,600
it's got that earthy smell to it

2739
01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:52,560
yeah exactly that kind of smell um i

2740
01:36:57,510 --> 01:36:54,320
associate with the bangs

2741
01:36:59,669 --> 01:36:57,520
um a tactile memory i have is walking

2742
01:37:00,870 --> 01:36:59,679
across one of the floors and it felt

2743
01:37:05,109 --> 01:37:00,880
like going over

2744
01:37:08,390 --> 01:37:05,119
uh astroturf a little prickly

2745
01:37:11,030 --> 01:37:08,400
um yeah that's interesting

2746
01:37:12,550 --> 01:37:11,040
that's cool yeah maybe they go off on

2747
01:37:14,149 --> 01:37:12,560
their off time

2748
01:37:16,149 --> 01:37:14,159
like yeah dude they're walking across

2749
01:37:17,669 --> 01:37:16,159
the green typical doctors

2750
01:37:20,310 --> 01:37:17,679
experimenting all day and then when

2751
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:20,320
they're off they golf

2752
01:37:26,149 --> 01:37:23,920
yes so awesome wow that's interesting

2753
01:37:27,510 --> 01:37:26,159
like a type of turf grass that's that's

2754
01:37:29,350 --> 01:37:27,520
super interesting that's the first time

2755
01:37:32,310 --> 01:37:29,360
i've heard of anything like that that's

2756
01:37:32,870 --> 01:37:32,320
cool i just happen to be barefoot that's

2757
01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:32,880
that's

2758
01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:34,880
you know and of course that was that was

2759
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:36,239
pulled out through regression

2760
01:37:42,149 --> 01:37:39,520
that that sensation um

2761
01:37:44,709 --> 01:37:42,159
do you have any you know like you have

2762
01:37:47,990 --> 01:37:44,719
like certain memories of being on a ship

2763
01:37:50,950 --> 01:37:48,000
um do you do you do you know if there's

2764
01:37:51,830 --> 01:37:50,960
any like specifications like was this

2765
01:37:55,109 --> 01:37:51,840
ship

2766
01:37:57,910 --> 01:37:55,119
the water

2767
01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:57,920
in the ocean on earth was it underground

2768
01:38:02,149 --> 01:37:59,600
maybe in a bunker somewhere

2769
01:38:04,070 --> 01:38:02,159
i mean do you have any like location

2770
01:38:05,510 --> 01:38:04,080
specificities or do you

2771
01:38:08,229 --> 01:38:05,520
the best your knowledge you just

2772
01:38:10,070 --> 01:38:08,239
remember a ship

2773
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:10,080
the only two times i could tell you

2774
01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:12,080
where i knew where the ship was were the

2775
01:38:15,430 --> 01:38:14,080
two times that i had the regressions the

2776
01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:15,440
first time

2777
01:38:18,950 --> 01:38:17,520
the ship was in the sky above my house i

2778
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:18,960
don't know how far up

2779
01:38:23,030 --> 01:38:21,360
but i went into a beam up into the into

2780
01:38:24,950 --> 01:38:23,040
the ship above the home

2781
01:38:26,149 --> 01:38:24,960
and the second time the ship had

2782
01:38:29,669 --> 01:38:26,159
descended

2783
01:38:32,550 --> 01:38:29,679
and landed and we were boarded

2784
01:38:34,470 --> 01:38:32,560
oh wow wow and so one of the one of

2785
01:38:35,830 --> 01:38:34,480
these experiences was that the one where

2786
01:38:39,189 --> 01:38:35,840
you went through the ceiling

2787
01:38:40,070 --> 01:38:39,199
as a as a young kid yes the the one

2788
01:38:41,830 --> 01:38:40,080
where the ship was

2789
01:38:43,430 --> 01:38:41,840
up in the sky that's where i went

2790
01:38:44,229 --> 01:38:43,440
through the ceiling man that that

2791
01:38:47,430 --> 01:38:44,239
description

2792
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:47,440
of like your atoms like

2793
01:38:50,950 --> 01:38:50,639
going through the atoms of the house was

2794
01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:50,960
like

2795
01:38:54,790 --> 01:38:52,960
it gave me chills almost because it's

2796
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:54,800
like you always hear the stories of like

2797
01:38:58,070 --> 01:38:56,800
them walking through the walls

2798
01:38:59,750 --> 01:38:58,080
you know there's no point in locking

2799
01:39:00,629 --> 01:38:59,760
your doors they're just gonna walk

2800
01:39:02,790 --> 01:39:00,639
through it

2801
01:39:05,109 --> 01:39:02,800
and then for them to be able to give you

2802
01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:05,119
that same ability

2803
01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:08,960
um you know still as a human you're not

2804
01:39:12,709 --> 01:39:10,800
an et you're not like a

2805
01:39:14,950 --> 01:39:12,719
superhero or anything but the the

2806
01:39:15,430 --> 01:39:14,960
ability that they have to be able to

2807
01:39:19,189 --> 01:39:15,440
give

2808
01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:19,199
you the ability for your atoms to just

2809
01:39:24,550 --> 01:39:22,480
travel through a solid object is is

2810
01:39:26,229 --> 01:39:24,560
incredible to me

2811
01:39:28,870 --> 01:39:26,239
yeah and that's and that's not the first

2812
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:28,880
time you know uh

2813
01:39:34,950 --> 01:39:32,400
and it's it's it's always fascinating um

2814
01:39:37,109 --> 01:39:34,960
of course as that was through regression

2815
01:39:40,870 --> 01:39:37,119
i was able to spend the time

2816
01:39:41,669 --> 01:39:40,880
just just feeling it and describing it

2817
01:39:43,990 --> 01:39:41,679
to myself

2818
01:39:46,229 --> 01:39:44,000
and you know through recordings and all

2819
01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:46,239
this i've been able to retain it and

2820
01:39:52,629 --> 01:39:49,760
wow it was just a

2821
01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:52,639
very interesting experience have you

2822
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:54,719
ever had the opportunity to maybe talk

2823
01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:55,600
to somebody

2824
01:40:00,229 --> 01:39:58,560
like you know just like about the

2825
01:40:01,590 --> 01:40:00,239
experience we just talked about like

2826
01:40:03,910 --> 01:40:01,600
have you ever had the opportunity to sit

2827
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:03,920
down with a scientist and be like hey

2828
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:06,159
is there like is there a scientific

2829
01:40:10,470 --> 01:40:08,080
explanation between

2830
01:40:11,669 --> 01:40:10,480
sliding atoms through a solid object is

2831
01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:11,679
there any

2832
01:40:17,510 --> 01:40:15,199
type of physics that you know

2833
01:40:19,189 --> 01:40:17,520
that that we know of because we always

2834
01:40:20,709 --> 01:40:19,199
talk about how like atoms are just full

2835
01:40:22,709 --> 01:40:20,719
of empty space and

2836
01:40:24,790 --> 01:40:22,719
and theoretically you could move this

2837
01:40:27,990 --> 01:40:24,800
empty space through empty space

2838
01:40:30,070 --> 01:40:28,000
that is a wall right you know

2839
01:40:31,030 --> 01:40:30,080
no i have never i've never sat down with

2840
01:40:32,709 --> 01:40:31,040
anybody no

2841
01:40:34,229 --> 01:40:32,719
because it would be fascinating to do

2842
01:40:37,430 --> 01:40:34,239
that yeah it's a very

2843
01:40:39,109 --> 01:40:37,440
interesting like just you know

2844
01:40:40,790 --> 01:40:39,119
you know i've said it a million times on

2845
01:40:42,390 --> 01:40:40,800
this show you know like

2846
01:40:44,310 --> 01:40:42,400
magic is just science we don't

2847
01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:44,320
understand right and it's like one of

2848
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:46,320
those things where like

2849
01:40:52,550 --> 01:40:49,440
the experiencers have so much going on

2850
01:40:55,990 --> 01:40:52,560
that you would think that

2851
01:40:57,270 --> 01:40:56,000
legit scientists would hop all over

2852
01:40:59,430 --> 01:40:57,280
because i mean we're trying to do this

2853
01:41:01,830 --> 01:40:59,440
in theoretical physics right now

2854
01:41:03,109 --> 01:41:01,840
why aren't we talking to people like you

2855
01:41:05,270 --> 01:41:03,119
who've actually

2856
01:41:06,149 --> 01:41:05,280
went through a wall you know what i'm

2857
01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:06,159
saying like

2858
01:41:09,510 --> 01:41:08,320
it would seem like if you wanted to to

2859
01:41:11,590 --> 01:41:09,520
explain or

2860
01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:11,600
you know you know not saying like

2861
01:41:14,229 --> 01:41:13,360
hooking up to wires and experiment on

2862
01:41:16,550 --> 01:41:14,239
you but like if you

2863
01:41:17,590 --> 01:41:16,560
if you wanted a subject that's been

2864
01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:17,600
through this

2865
01:41:21,669 --> 01:41:19,760
maybe your contact is the person you

2866
01:41:23,830 --> 01:41:21,679
want to talk to but there's so much

2867
01:41:25,030 --> 01:41:23,840
like you said taboo around the subject

2868
01:41:27,109 --> 01:41:25,040
still um

2869
01:41:29,109 --> 01:41:27,119
for right now that you know it does put

2870
01:41:30,790 --> 01:41:29,119
people's careers in jeopardy so i

2871
01:41:33,430 --> 01:41:30,800
understand why but

2872
01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:33,440
at the same time i don't understand why

2873
01:41:38,629 --> 01:41:34,480
you know

2874
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:41,590
yeah yeah but no if you ever get the

2875
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:43,760
chance you should you should definitely

2876
01:41:47,189 --> 01:41:45,199
see if you see if you can chitchat with

2877
01:41:49,510 --> 01:41:47,199
somebody about that and then uh yeah

2878
01:41:51,350 --> 01:41:49,520
let us know because i definitely i am

2879
01:41:53,350 --> 01:41:51,360
interested in it i would be like

2880
01:41:55,189 --> 01:41:53,360
i would be asking questions if i were

2881
01:41:57,910 --> 01:41:55,199
okay so there's a joke i don't know

2882
01:41:59,430 --> 01:41:57,920
uh aaron if you how long you've been

2883
01:42:01,270 --> 01:41:59,440
listening the podcast but we're

2884
01:42:02,709 --> 01:42:01,280
we call ourselves doctor scientists

2885
01:42:06,470 --> 01:42:02,719
because we're like we don't know

2886
01:42:08,149 --> 01:42:06,480
anything so we're just like

2887
01:42:10,790 --> 01:42:08,159
it's ironic i don't know if you got that

2888
01:42:11,830 --> 01:42:10,800
yeah but but as a doctor scientist i

2889
01:42:14,629 --> 01:42:11,840
would be curious

2890
01:42:16,390 --> 01:42:14,639
as joe's speculating like asking you

2891
01:42:18,709 --> 01:42:16,400
specific questions like when you

2892
01:42:20,550 --> 01:42:18,719
experienced walking through a wall were

2893
01:42:22,550 --> 01:42:20,560
there smells where did you hear a

2894
01:42:25,189 --> 01:42:22,560
humming noise was it that were there

2895
01:42:26,149 --> 01:42:25,199
was there heat involved like i don't

2896
01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:26,159
know i did

2897
01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:28,480
i bet a physicist would have way better

2898
01:42:32,310 --> 01:42:29,280
questions

2899
01:42:34,709 --> 01:42:32,320
yeah well yeah

2900
01:42:35,590 --> 01:42:34,719
and and i don't even know i would have

2901
01:42:37,750 --> 01:42:35,600
to probably if

2902
01:42:38,950 --> 01:42:37,760
if i was put back into regression to

2903
01:42:42,229 --> 01:42:38,960
that time

2904
01:42:44,149 --> 01:42:42,239
boy the information he could get out so

2905
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:44,159
how was your how was your experience

2906
01:42:46,229 --> 01:42:45,600
with with regression you mentioned that

2907
01:42:48,629 --> 01:42:46,239
you did

2908
01:42:49,990 --> 01:42:48,639
did it twice is it uh was were you

2909
01:42:52,550 --> 01:42:50,000
nervous about it at first

2910
01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,560
uh i was very nervous i didn't know what

2911
01:42:57,669 --> 01:42:54,400
to expect i didn't really understand

2912
01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:57,679
what hypnosis was i didn't know

2913
01:43:00,709 --> 01:42:59,119
like i brought somebody with me because

2914
01:43:01,270 --> 01:43:00,719
i didn't know if i'd be able to drive

2915
01:43:02,550 --> 01:43:01,280
after

2916
01:43:05,430 --> 01:43:02,560
i didn't want to be a zombie or

2917
01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:05,440
something and uh

2918
01:43:12,470 --> 01:43:08,960
what i can tell you is that before

2919
01:43:15,510 --> 01:43:12,480
having hypnosis

2920
01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:15,520
i was not sleeping i was terrified i

2921
01:43:19,910 --> 01:43:18,080
slept with well tried to sleep with the

2922
01:43:23,350 --> 01:43:19,920
lights on for months i was in a

2923
01:43:24,070 --> 01:43:23,360
very very disturbed place as far as my

2924
01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:24,080
ptsd

2925
01:43:30,790 --> 01:43:27,119
was you know just

2926
01:43:31,830 --> 01:43:30,800
in a state of just utter terror all the

2927
01:43:32,870 --> 01:43:31,840
time they're going to get me they're

2928
01:43:37,030 --> 01:43:32,880
going to get me and

2929
01:43:40,310 --> 01:43:37,040
um after that i slept fine

2930
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:40,320
and i continued to sleep fine she

2931
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:42,400
was able to help me come to terms with

2932
01:43:46,550 --> 01:43:43,360
things enough

2933
01:43:48,149 --> 01:43:46,560
that it was no longer

2934
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:48,159
prominent in my mind it's like you're

2935
01:43:52,950 --> 01:43:49,600
gonna be okay

2936
01:43:55,990 --> 01:43:52,960
and now you can sleep and and it really

2937
01:43:59,189 --> 01:43:56,000
helped and then and that's how

2938
01:44:01,189 --> 01:43:59,199
hypnosis can help with ptsd you really

2939
01:44:02,709 --> 01:44:01,199
reliving the experience in a state of

2940
01:44:06,229 --> 01:44:02,719
relaxation

2941
01:44:10,229 --> 01:44:06,239
is what you have to do wow

2942
01:44:12,149 --> 01:44:10,239
yeah and it and it really really helps

2943
01:44:14,229 --> 01:44:12,159
and you yourself i mean you made a

2944
01:44:16,390 --> 01:44:14,239
career change to become

2945
01:44:17,910 --> 01:44:16,400
uh you have what you have you went to

2946
01:44:18,790 --> 01:44:17,920
college and you ended up becoming a

2947
01:44:21,830 --> 01:44:18,800
psychologist

2948
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:21,840
and helping people now you you deal with

2949
01:44:25,750 --> 01:44:24,000
marriage counseling and stuff like that

2950
01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:25,760
yeah and family counseling

2951
01:44:29,430 --> 01:44:27,280
right just trying to help people out

2952
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:29,440
librarian yeah i was a librarian

2953
01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:33,280
and then the idea and and you know

2954
01:44:36,550 --> 01:44:36,080
i'm sure i was again led to it um and

2955
01:44:38,070 --> 01:44:36,560
and this

2956
01:44:40,790 --> 01:44:38,080
has happened time and time again in my

2957
01:44:43,350 --> 01:44:40,800
life i was happy as a librarian

2958
01:44:45,030 --> 01:44:43,360
just happy as a clown but all of a

2959
01:44:46,390 --> 01:44:45,040
sudden i had to go back to school

2960
01:44:48,070 --> 01:44:46,400
and i didn't know why and i had to go

2961
01:44:50,229 --> 01:44:48,080
back to school and oh i have to go into

2962
01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:50,239
counseling i have to be a counselor

2963
01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:52,800
and um it was one of those drives just

2964
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:54,480
like my drive now to talk about these

2965
01:44:58,950 --> 01:44:56,800
things and so i became a counselor

2966
01:45:00,310 --> 01:44:58,960
took forever i'm still working on

2967
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:00,320
licensure i'm not

2968
01:45:06,790 --> 01:45:03,679
completely finished with the process but

2969
01:45:08,709 --> 01:45:06,800
i've also gone and

2970
01:45:11,350 --> 01:45:08,719
and studied at the milton erickson

2971
01:45:13,030 --> 01:45:11,360
foundation and have become

2972
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:13,040
um pretty i'm not going to say

2973
01:45:17,510 --> 01:45:14,560
proficient but i have

2974
01:45:18,629 --> 01:45:17,520
become pretty well versed in hypnosis

2975
01:45:21,430 --> 01:45:18,639
myself so i

2976
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:21,440
can use clinical hypnosis in therapy i

2977
01:45:25,109 --> 01:45:21,840
can

2978
01:45:27,510 --> 01:45:25,119
work with others i am waiting

2979
01:45:28,390 --> 01:45:27,520
somewhat patiently as yvonne figures out

2980
01:45:31,189 --> 01:45:28,400
a way to do

2981
01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:31,199
trainings for hypnotherapists who want

2982
01:45:35,990 --> 01:45:32,639
to work specifically with

2983
01:45:37,750 --> 01:45:36,000
um with contactees i don't i don't want

2984
01:45:39,350 --> 01:45:37,760
to delve into that stuff with anybody

2985
01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:39,360
until i have that kind of training

2986
01:45:43,510 --> 01:45:41,760
oh absolutely absolutely i mean i could

2987
01:45:47,109 --> 01:45:43,520
i could definitely see why

2988
01:45:49,510 --> 01:45:47,119
it it could potentially be very harmful

2989
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:49,520
if you don't do it correctly and so

2990
01:45:53,109 --> 01:45:51,040
that's definitely good that you want to

2991
01:45:53,669 --> 01:45:53,119
make sure that you get all the training

2992
01:45:56,070 --> 01:45:53,679
and

2993
01:45:57,590 --> 01:45:56,080
you don't want to incept somebody yeah

2994
01:46:00,709 --> 01:45:57,600
you want to put them like

2995
01:46:02,390 --> 01:46:00,719
five levels deep and and yeah

2996
01:46:03,910 --> 01:46:02,400
god that wouldn't be very good that

2997
01:46:05,830 --> 01:46:03,920
would be very good

2998
01:46:07,109 --> 01:46:05,840
but man i think that's i think that's

2999
01:46:09,510 --> 01:46:07,119
such a uh

3000
01:46:11,189 --> 01:46:09,520
a beautiful thing you know with with

3001
01:46:14,390 --> 01:46:11,199
everything that's happened to you

3002
01:46:16,390 --> 01:46:14,400
and your story and and the the way that

3003
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:16,400
your life is kind of played out and

3004
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:18,320
and guys definitely check out dirty

3005
01:46:20,950 --> 01:46:19,440
little secrets

3006
01:46:22,390 --> 01:46:20,960
there's so much more to the story

3007
01:46:24,390 --> 01:46:22,400
there's so much more in the book but

3008
01:46:27,270 --> 01:46:24,400
that's just such a beautiful like

3009
01:46:28,709 --> 01:46:27,280
kind of way to end it i think is is is

3010
01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:28,719
we come to the end of

3011
01:46:36,550 --> 01:46:32,159
of now you yourself want

3012
01:46:38,870 --> 01:46:36,560
to help people you know

3013
01:46:40,070 --> 01:46:38,880
not only not in your position but also

3014
01:46:43,430 --> 01:46:40,080
in your position

3015
01:46:50,709 --> 01:46:47,030
here there you go that was so weird

3016
01:46:52,390 --> 01:46:50,719
oh my god okay we figured it out

3017
01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:52,400
okay what happened we have some

3018
01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:53,760
neighborhood aliens that are messing

3019
01:46:57,189 --> 01:46:54,000
with

3020
01:46:59,189 --> 01:46:57,199
us okay yeah that's that's

3021
01:47:01,590 --> 01:46:59,199
very welcome was it you don't you mess

3022
01:47:06,390 --> 01:47:01,600
up electronics from time to time

3023
01:47:08,350 --> 01:47:06,400
uh yeah we're gonna blame it on you then

3024
01:47:12,950 --> 01:47:08,360
oh

3025
01:47:16,229 --> 01:47:14,709
i'm totally off my game now i don't even

3026
01:47:17,830 --> 01:47:16,239
remember where i was going with this

3027
01:47:19,510 --> 01:47:17,840
i know we were wrapping it up telling

3028
01:47:21,350 --> 01:47:19,520
you how wonderful i was yes

3029
01:47:22,870 --> 01:47:21,360
that's exactly right we are we're

3030
01:47:25,109 --> 01:47:22,880
definitely telling you how wonderful

3031
01:47:27,189 --> 01:47:25,119
you are um and i know we were wrapping

3032
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:27,199
that up so it was just such a strange

3033
01:47:30,709 --> 01:47:29,920
time for that to happen but yes i know

3034
01:47:32,470 --> 01:47:30,719
that there's uh

3035
01:47:34,229 --> 01:47:32,480
so much more to your story and like i

3036
01:47:35,669 --> 01:47:34,239
said i just think it's a it's a great

3037
01:47:38,950 --> 01:47:35,679
thing that you decided to

3038
01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:38,960
set out and and help people um

3039
01:47:43,109 --> 01:47:40,800
that are dealing with these same kind of

3040
01:47:43,910 --> 01:47:43,119
issues as well with other issues so that

3041
01:47:47,590 --> 01:47:43,920
makes you like

3042
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:47,600
110 percent cooler um and uh

3043
01:47:54,229 --> 01:47:51,040
it's yeah it's just been awesome uh guys

3044
01:47:55,430 --> 01:47:54,239
like like i said check it out dirty

3045
01:47:58,229 --> 01:47:55,440
little secrets

3046
01:48:00,149 --> 01:47:58,239
um aaron's amazing this book is amazing

3047
01:48:02,229 --> 01:48:00,159
you guys all need to check it out aaron

3048
01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:02,239
is there any specific places that you

3049
01:48:05,910 --> 01:48:04,080
want people to check out your book

3050
01:48:07,189 --> 01:48:05,920
uh do you have any way that people can

3051
01:48:10,310 --> 01:48:07,199
maybe you know

3052
01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:10,320
contact you or like how do you how do

3053
01:48:14,229 --> 01:48:11,920
you operate

3054
01:48:15,270 --> 01:48:14,239
um yeah the book is available on amazon

3055
01:48:18,070 --> 01:48:15,280
there's both a

3056
01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:18,080
paperback version and an ebook right now

3057
01:48:21,590 --> 01:48:20,320
about to start recording for the

3058
01:48:24,709 --> 01:48:21,600
audiobook

3059
01:48:26,390 --> 01:48:24,719
um that's going to be interesting um and

3060
01:48:28,470 --> 01:48:26,400
then

3061
01:48:30,629 --> 01:48:28,480
of course on facebook if you just you

3062
01:48:32,950 --> 01:48:30,639
can look up my name and contact me that

3063
01:48:34,709 --> 01:48:32,960
way you can dirty little secret itself

3064
01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:34,719
has a page you can contact me through

3065
01:48:41,189 --> 01:48:35,360
that

3066
01:48:45,030 --> 01:48:41,199
the room

3067
01:48:48,310 --> 01:48:45,040
and i actually share a website

3068
01:48:50,790 --> 01:48:48,320
wow yeah so we've got

3069
01:48:52,470 --> 01:48:50,800
um really crazy videos that we pick up

3070
01:48:54,550 --> 01:48:52,480
on cameras he has one outside i have one

3071
01:48:56,709 --> 01:48:54,560
in my bedroom which is kind of weird but

3072
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:56,719
um you know things that happen in the

3073
01:49:01,350 --> 01:48:59,119
night those videos are up there

3074
01:49:03,189 --> 01:49:01,360
you know if you are interested in any of

3075
01:49:03,830 --> 01:49:03,199
the healings that i do or the readings

3076
01:49:05,990 --> 01:49:03,840
that i do

3077
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:06,000
or just want to send us a message all

3078
01:49:10,430 --> 01:49:07,600
that can be done at the website and that

3079
01:49:15,189 --> 01:49:12,790
www.peoplesouterdimension.net

3080
01:49:16,149 --> 01:49:15,199
awesome yeah awesome we'll add that uh

3081
01:49:19,589 --> 01:49:16,159
info to the

3082
01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:19,599
youtube uh uh uh

3083
01:49:22,149 --> 01:49:21,199
when we post this on youtube yeah i

3084
01:49:22,709 --> 01:49:22,159
don't know if you know that but yeah

3085
01:49:25,750 --> 01:49:22,719
we're

3086
01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:25,760
spreaker and all that so

3087
01:49:28,310 --> 01:49:27,119
we'll add that information too for

3088
01:49:30,390 --> 01:49:28,320
anybody that's listening and wants to

3089
01:49:32,470 --> 01:49:30,400
check out the website

3090
01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:32,480
awesome that's great yeah and we'll uh

3091
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:34,080
we'll send you a a

3092
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:36,480
a link to this episode and if you want

3093
01:49:41,430 --> 01:49:38,639
to share it to any of your groups or

3094
01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:41,440
anything like that feel free um our

3095
01:49:44,870 --> 01:49:43,119
stuff is your stuff

3096
01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:44,880
only because it's it's your story in the

3097
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:46,560
first place so we want you guys

3098
01:49:50,070 --> 01:49:48,560
we want you guys to have everything that

3099
01:49:53,109 --> 01:49:50,080
that we do so

3100
01:49:53,589 --> 01:49:53,119
it's it's it's all you but uh aaron once

3101
01:49:55,750 --> 01:49:53,599
again

3102
01:49:57,510 --> 01:49:55,760
i mean this was just absolutely amazing

3103
01:49:59,350 --> 01:49:57,520
thank you so much for reaching out to us

3104
01:50:00,070 --> 01:49:59,360
again i apologize it took us so long to

3105
01:50:02,390 --> 01:50:00,080
get to you

3106
01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:02,400
we just we've had so much stuff you know

3107
01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:03,520
lately it's just been

3108
01:50:07,830 --> 01:50:05,520
a little crazy around here but i'm so

3109
01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:07,840
glad we got to this yes

3110
01:50:11,109 --> 01:50:09,520
absolutely well i had fun and if you

3111
01:50:14,229 --> 01:50:11,119
ever want me back just let me know

3112
01:50:15,830 --> 01:50:14,239
oh yeah i had a blast absolutely

3113
01:50:18,229 --> 01:50:15,840
absolutely your story is uh

3114
01:50:19,109 --> 01:50:18,239
is still continuing to this day so we're

3115
01:50:21,189 --> 01:50:19,119
definitely gonna have

3116
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:21,199
have you back and uh get a little more

3117
01:50:24,550 --> 01:50:23,040
into this and and see where you're at in

3118
01:50:26,470 --> 01:50:24,560
the future

3119
01:50:27,910 --> 01:50:26,480
awesome awesome well hey we'll talk to

3120
01:50:32,390 --> 01:50:27,920
you later all right

3121
01:50:34,950 --> 01:50:32,400
all right sounds good bye guys bye

3122
01:50:36,229 --> 01:50:34,960
nice cool man that was uh that was that

3123
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:36,239
was freaking awesome dude

3124
01:50:41,109 --> 01:50:39,040
bro yeah awesome man i told you man her

3125
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:41,119
story there's just so much to it i mean

3126
01:50:44,470 --> 01:50:42,000
there's so much

3127
01:50:46,229 --> 01:50:44,480
like well she could speak for 30 seconds

3128
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:46,239
and there's just so much to unpack in

3129
01:50:51,189 --> 01:50:48,400
that 30 seconds and it's like

3130
01:50:52,070 --> 01:50:51,199
yeah we could do this for hours i know

3131
01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:52,080
it's just not enough

3132
01:50:57,589 --> 01:50:55,360
time right and and like we're kind of

3133
01:50:58,550 --> 01:50:57,599
we're pushing that you know two hour

3134
01:51:01,510 --> 01:50:58,560
mark right now

3135
01:51:02,229 --> 01:51:01,520
but it's it's almost it's almost like i

3136
01:51:04,390 --> 01:51:02,239
need to

3137
01:51:06,070 --> 01:51:04,400
and i think maybe our listeners maybe

3138
01:51:08,629 --> 01:51:06,080
need a little break too because there's

3139
01:51:09,589 --> 01:51:08,639
so much that we talked about in this

3140
01:51:12,070 --> 01:51:09,599
episode like

3141
01:51:13,830 --> 01:51:12,080
we just have to have her back on to to

3142
01:51:16,310 --> 01:51:13,840
to really dive into

3143
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:16,320
maybe even start any of the other

3144
01:51:19,990 --> 01:51:17,760
stories that she has to tell

3145
01:51:20,790 --> 01:51:20,000
oh definitely but um yeah i feel like at

3146
01:51:23,189 --> 01:51:20,800
the beginning like

3147
01:51:25,510 --> 01:51:23,199
i just you know not knowing as much as

3148
01:51:27,669 --> 01:51:25,520
you do about her story

3149
01:51:28,950 --> 01:51:27,679
i just i don't know i wanted to know

3150
01:51:31,830 --> 01:51:28,960
everything once

3151
01:51:33,669 --> 01:51:31,840
but you know i i i'm sorry i asked that

3152
01:51:37,109 --> 01:51:33,679
question

3153
01:51:39,350 --> 01:51:37,119
how many aliens have you seen but but uh

3154
01:51:40,709 --> 01:51:39,360
wait you didn't hear me how many aliens

3155
01:51:44,149 --> 01:51:40,719
have you seen

3156
01:51:46,830 --> 01:51:44,159
by the way hey before you go hey

3157
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:46,840
i want to know how many aliens have you

3158
01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:48,719
seen

3159
01:51:52,870 --> 01:51:51,119
but uh yeah do you like a new shirt how

3160
01:51:56,229 --> 01:51:52,880
many aliens have you seen

3161
01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:56,239
that's a great shirt yeah it is like

3162
01:52:00,149 --> 01:51:58,800
it's like a art cartoon of my face like

3163
01:52:04,550 --> 01:52:00,159
like looking

3164
01:52:07,750 --> 01:52:05,750
looking at looking at you with a

3165
01:52:11,589 --> 01:52:07,760
straight face yeah yeah it's totally

3166
01:52:13,830 --> 01:52:11,599
yeah god damn it ben

3167
01:52:15,350 --> 01:52:13,840
oh it's so hard i only had like three

3168
01:52:17,750 --> 01:52:15,360
beers too yeah me too

3169
01:52:18,709 --> 01:52:17,760
me too that was that was so great though

3170
01:52:21,109 --> 01:52:18,719
yeah

3171
01:52:22,790 --> 01:52:21,119
i absolutely loved her story uh you know

3172
01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:22,800
and

3173
01:52:26,870 --> 01:52:24,159
we haven't even scratched the surface i

3174
01:52:28,070 --> 01:52:26,880
feel like no not really i mean we kind

3175
01:52:29,750 --> 01:52:28,080
of went through the book

3176
01:52:32,470 --> 01:52:29,760
a little bit yeah it wasn't

3177
01:52:34,950 --> 01:52:32,480
chronologically but there is definitely

3178
01:52:36,149 --> 01:52:34,960
at least seven more stories in here that

3179
01:52:38,310 --> 01:52:36,159
we didn't even get to

3180
01:52:39,990 --> 01:52:38,320
yeah and uh we talked about the

3181
01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:40,000
additional time that she had but she's

3182
01:52:42,310 --> 01:52:42,000
also had missing time i mean it's just

3183
01:52:44,470 --> 01:52:42,320
yeah

3184
01:52:46,950 --> 01:52:44,480
you know traveling with friends it's

3185
01:52:50,470 --> 01:52:46,960
happened to not only her but her

3186
01:52:52,709 --> 01:52:50,480
uh uh her former husband and a couple of

3187
01:52:53,270 --> 01:52:52,719
her friends i mean she's had issues in a

3188
01:52:55,990 --> 01:52:53,280
car

3189
01:52:56,950 --> 01:52:56,000
i mean the the beings like you know in

3190
01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:56,960
the road

3191
01:53:00,070 --> 01:52:58,960
and the face like the stuff that i'm

3192
01:53:02,550 --> 01:53:00,080
holding on

3193
01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:02,560
yeah it's just dude it's just there's so

3194
01:53:05,270 --> 01:53:03,119
much

3195
01:53:06,390 --> 01:53:05,280
uh in this book but i knew she had to

3196
01:53:08,470 --> 01:53:06,400
get on to

3197
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:08,480
her her uh she has another show tonight

3198
01:53:14,229 --> 01:53:10,960
so i wanted to give her time to kind of

3199
01:53:16,629 --> 01:53:14,239
cool down and yeah that was smart

3200
01:53:17,430 --> 01:53:16,639
not have to tell the story and then go

3201
01:53:19,830 --> 01:53:17,440
to the next

3202
01:53:20,870 --> 01:53:19,840
one and tell the story again and be like

3203
01:53:22,629 --> 01:53:20,880
look dude

3204
01:53:24,550 --> 01:53:22,639
look i was abducted by aliens like she

3205
01:53:25,189 --> 01:53:24,560
said i'm tired i stole the story three

3206
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:25,199
times already

3207
01:53:31,189 --> 01:53:28,800
i told you already but uh yeah she was

3208
01:53:32,709 --> 01:53:31,199
she was so awesome i'm so glad we uh we

3209
01:53:35,750 --> 01:53:32,719
finally got to have her on

3210
01:53:37,910 --> 01:53:35,760
yeah yeah seriously i mean that's

3211
01:53:39,270 --> 01:53:37,920
that's pretty i mean yeah we gotta have

3212
01:53:41,750 --> 01:53:39,280
her back on yeah but uh

3213
01:53:44,070 --> 01:53:41,760
okay so next week who do we have next

3214
01:53:49,750 --> 01:53:44,080
week before we sign off completely

3215
01:54:01,189 --> 01:53:53,669
gilmette jason gilmette jason

3216
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:02,790
oh my god i bet you that's how you say

3217
01:54:09,030 --> 01:54:04,560
it well i just never say oh i

3218
01:54:12,229 --> 01:54:09,040
haven't said it all out yet jason

3219
01:54:14,550 --> 01:54:12,239
um yeah so i can't remember

3220
01:54:15,510 --> 01:54:14,560
uh well i should have done this before

3221
01:54:17,189 --> 01:54:15,520
but like yeah

3222
01:54:18,550 --> 01:54:17,199
he has his own pocket yeah he runs his

3223
01:54:20,470 --> 01:54:18,560
own podcast and uh

3224
01:54:23,589 --> 01:54:20,480
he's me he's kind of uh listening to

3225
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:23,599
some of our shows and um

3226
01:54:27,910 --> 01:54:25,920
he's kind of he's he's gonna kind of you

3227
01:54:30,310 --> 01:54:27,920
know we wanted to promote his show

3228
01:54:32,229 --> 01:54:30,320
um uap studies podcast yeah and it's

3229
01:54:33,030 --> 01:54:32,239
it's pretty good it's more on the more

3230
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:33,040
scientific

3231
01:54:40,149 --> 01:54:36,800
side of things um trying to

3232
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:40,159
weed out the uh um the [\h__\h]

3233
01:54:43,430 --> 01:54:42,719
with the uh with the with the real stuff

3234
01:54:46,229 --> 01:54:43,440
you know

3235
01:54:48,229 --> 01:54:46,239
um so that's kind of his mission yeah um

3236
01:54:49,430 --> 01:54:48,239
and also it might not be the next

3237
01:54:49,990 --> 01:54:49,440
episode right because we might do

3238
01:54:53,109 --> 01:54:50,000
something else

3239
01:54:53,750 --> 01:54:53,119
for our 60th 60th episode it's well it's

3240
01:54:55,270 --> 01:54:53,760
possible

3241
01:54:57,430 --> 01:54:55,280
we already have them scheduled so i

3242
01:54:59,990 --> 01:54:57,440
think we should just do it okay

3243
01:55:01,430 --> 01:55:00,000
um yeah i mean i'm excited i was

3244
01:55:03,589 --> 01:55:01,440
thinking we could do like an hour

3245
01:55:05,270 --> 01:55:03,599
of us just making fart noises for our

3246
01:55:06,870 --> 01:55:05,280
60th episode

3247
01:55:08,310 --> 01:55:06,880
we could record it right after this

3248
01:55:11,350 --> 01:55:08,320
somebody's gonna listen to it

3249
01:55:11,990 --> 01:55:11,360
dude i guarantee you somebody's gonna

3250
01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:12,000
listen to it

3251
01:55:16,629 --> 01:55:15,040
and i mean some of you might hate it and

3252
01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:16,639
some of you might like it but i can make

3253
01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:18,000
a lot of really

3254
01:55:21,189 --> 01:55:19,840
great fart noises it's hilarious because

3255
01:55:23,510 --> 01:55:21,199
if we did do an hour

3256
01:55:24,310 --> 01:55:23,520
of just fart noises and we put it up on

3257
01:55:26,870 --> 01:55:24,320
youtube

3258
01:55:27,910 --> 01:55:26,880
you know somebody's gonna comment and be

3259
01:55:35,589 --> 01:55:27,920
like

3260
01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:35,599
dude exactly

3261
01:55:39,030 --> 01:55:38,320
like their jokes aren't funny laughing

3262
01:55:40,550 --> 01:55:39,040
too much and

3263
01:55:42,229 --> 01:55:40,560
they think they're [\h__\h] funny and

3264
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:42,239
they're not

3265
01:55:46,550 --> 01:55:44,239
it's like yeah i know we just made a

3266
01:55:49,910 --> 01:55:46,560
full hour episode of farting noises

3267
01:55:53,589 --> 01:55:49,920
yeah on purpose yeah because it was

3268
01:55:55,189 --> 01:55:53,599
it was funny yeah and then and then the

3269
01:55:55,910 --> 01:55:55,199
rest of the comments will be like that

3270
01:55:58,149 --> 01:55:55,920
was so

3271
01:55:59,750 --> 01:55:58,159
funny there's always that one person

3272
01:56:02,709 --> 01:55:59,760
that was the one

3273
01:56:03,669 --> 01:56:02,719
wet napkin way too serious oh man that's

3274
01:56:05,589 --> 01:56:03,679
so funny dude

3275
01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:05,599
yeah well all right man uh that was a

3276
01:56:07,830 --> 01:56:06,719
good episode yeah

3277
01:56:10,310 --> 01:56:07,840
definitely a good episode definitely

3278
01:56:11,510 --> 01:56:10,320
gonna have her on again um and guys once

3279
01:56:12,830 --> 01:56:11,520
again don't forget to go check out the

3280
01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:12,840
book

3281
01:56:18,470 --> 01:56:15,280
uh dirty little secret

3282
01:56:20,950 --> 01:56:18,480
i'll keep you my dirty little secret

3283
01:56:22,470 --> 01:56:20,960
but but don't let that throw you off

3284
01:56:25,669 --> 01:56:22,480
this is a way

3285
01:56:27,910 --> 01:56:25,679
way way cooler

3286
01:56:29,990 --> 01:56:27,920
dirty little secret intense i promise

3287
01:56:32,709 --> 01:56:30,000
it's this was such a good book

3288
01:56:33,350 --> 01:56:32,719
it was such a good book i love it dude i

3289
01:56:39,750 --> 01:56:33,360
love it

3290
01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:42,790
well this was another episode ufo for